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GV27

LOL - man, that's going awful far out of the way just to be ghetto!

design311

...or you could build a longer shackle for like $6 in materials...

KyleT

what i was refering to was a need for a middle brace between the 2 bars on that shackel, dont want II to go //

design311

Agreed

tc

No - the Tundra/topout idea is not ghetto. It is a very smart reapplication of good technology.

The coil spring in the middle of a leaf setup is ghetto. I don't think it's unsafe. The coil is going to try to bend arch into the leaf spring, so very little of it's "force" will go into "lift". You will have components fighting against each other? Will it work, probably so, but compared to a AAL, or even a new spring pack, it doesn't seem like you'd save much money and get little/no benefit.

spudrunner

Okay guys, all I'm trying to do is get like 2-3" of lift on my '88 4 Runner with the sagging rear leafs. Just thought that the tj springs would be an easy cheap way to do it. I can get a pair of new rear coils off an '06 Rubicon for $40. So what would be the best, easiest install for right now to get the lift I want. Right now it's 2 below zero here, so I don't want to be out there all day. Probably do an add a leaf in the spring and get a 1" lift kit from 4 crawler. How much of a job is it to put longer shackles in? Lift blocks? Thanks for any advice.

spudrunner

Here's where I got the idea for the coils springs. No one called it ghetto here?

http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showfl...fpart=all&vc=1

mastacox

Well, the idea is relatively sound, as that is where an airbag would go on your truck if you got a set... but I personally would rather get a new set of leafs. Also, you'de better measure those Jeep coils before planning to use them, they could be WAY too long.

86Original

My avatar pic was taken when I had TJ coils on my rear. It was on the Blanca Peak (Lake Como) trail, which you will find is rated 7-8 out of 10. In addition, I ran several easier trails in the San Juan's. Also ran Flatiron Mesa, Hell's Revenge, and the lower 1/2 of Cliffhanger in Moab plus Elephant Hill in Canyonlands. Put on several thousand miles of pavement driving with them on. Never a safety issue with stock length shocks. They keep the coils captured on the bumper & stop.


See my page linked in my sig for more info about them. They definitely give a couple of inches of lift. Had to remove air bags when I put them on because they interfered with each other. They only cost me $30 and could be put on w/o modifying the vehicle. Just had to trim a couple of inches off the coil to get them turned in . See the 4x4wire thread for more info.

Be sure to get the rear springs. The fronts will be too tall, unless you cut quite a bit off.

Removed the TJ coils because I couldn't get full compression with them on when crawling on the Blanca trail. Will probably get Alcan's or OME Dakar's. You'll notice the pics on my rig page later (Golden Spike, Moab Rim) show the rear fully stuffed in some pictures. This is with the TJ coils off and using the RideControl air bags at about 10 psi. Not as much rear lift, but more travel.

Anyone want a trimmed set of coils? Free + shipping.

vwfastg60

ok cutting springs and stuffing them in on top of the leaf pack....I was starting to think i had seen it all....

Why put the much time and effort in to fabbing something that doesnt give you anymore travel,could be dangerous if not done with limiting straps or mounting the coil at both ends. It seems like more work then its worth. Id say good idea if you were linking it or replacing the pack or building your own pack but this is out there.

86Original

Read the 4x4wire thread before commenting. I don't think you understand how they are mounted, based on your comments. There's no fabbing with the TJ coils and the springs are captured. It's cheap and quick, and gives lift. Like AAL, only quicker, cheaper, and easier. Gives better spring rate at light loads, too. Just doesn't give full compression.

thralldad

I put "ZUK" coils on my 86 and am totally happy with them. I used a pair of Ford rear springs (free) cut down to 10" tall. Rubber isolators for no squeaks. Restored ride height,rides great. A bit over an hour to install. Mind you I wasn't going for lift but that with a longer shackle...

My avatar is before the springs...