In Serious Need of Help with 22RE
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In Serious Need of Help with 22RE
Hey guys,
Let me start off with the truck in question. It's a '94 P/U with a 22RE. I snapped off the housing bolt changing the thermostat at the end of the summer and no amount of reverse bits, drilling would make it better. I decided to remove lower intake manifold earlier this week and at first seeemed very straight forward. Bolts off the head and came across the notorious 6mm allen head under the thermostat housing. I came across a 17mm bolt at the end of the fuel rail preventing the best angle to remove the allen head and decided i have to remove the upper intake manifold anyway when i swap the lower half (I also had ordered a new, but used lower half in preparation to swap).
Anyway, this is when things fell apart. I took pictures of the various wires, hoses, etc above the engine, but didnt really take any of the hoses underneath the manifold. Out of frustration and time I removed much of the fuel rail connections that were attached to the upper/lower intake manifolds and accidentally pulled snapped a wire leading to the lower block when pulling the harness through (it was routed in between the two chambers of the lower manifold.
Now i'm seriously stuck and stressing out about how way over my head i think im in. I have both upper and lower manifolds removed and separated ready for the new gaskets and reversal of removal, but i was hoping this would be a weeklong project. I'm starting a new job (second one) soon and still have military commitments on the weekends and time is just not affordable right now. I look at these hoses and wires and can't even fathom which one goes where, etc. and im seriously, seriously about to cry.
I know its a long rant, but Ive made a decision to try and enlist help from friendly people in this forum. Does anyone here close to the NY/NJ metro area have very good experience with 22REs? I'm willing to pay a reasonable and fair price for good work.
I would really want to get this thing running again. I changed the clutch last year on my own, but somehow this thing is just overwhelming me. Worst comes to worst, I will just sell it. It was a perfectly running 22RE 5-speed.
Let me start off with the truck in question. It's a '94 P/U with a 22RE. I snapped off the housing bolt changing the thermostat at the end of the summer and no amount of reverse bits, drilling would make it better. I decided to remove lower intake manifold earlier this week and at first seeemed very straight forward. Bolts off the head and came across the notorious 6mm allen head under the thermostat housing. I came across a 17mm bolt at the end of the fuel rail preventing the best angle to remove the allen head and decided i have to remove the upper intake manifold anyway when i swap the lower half (I also had ordered a new, but used lower half in preparation to swap).
Anyway, this is when things fell apart. I took pictures of the various wires, hoses, etc above the engine, but didnt really take any of the hoses underneath the manifold. Out of frustration and time I removed much of the fuel rail connections that were attached to the upper/lower intake manifolds and accidentally pulled snapped a wire leading to the lower block when pulling the harness through (it was routed in between the two chambers of the lower manifold.
Now i'm seriously stuck and stressing out about how way over my head i think im in. I have both upper and lower manifolds removed and separated ready for the new gaskets and reversal of removal, but i was hoping this would be a weeklong project. I'm starting a new job (second one) soon and still have military commitments on the weekends and time is just not affordable right now. I look at these hoses and wires and can't even fathom which one goes where, etc. and im seriously, seriously about to cry.
I know its a long rant, but Ive made a decision to try and enlist help from friendly people in this forum. Does anyone here close to the NY/NJ metro area have very good experience with 22REs? I'm willing to pay a reasonable and fair price for good work.
I would really want to get this thing running again. I changed the clutch last year on my own, but somehow this thing is just overwhelming me. Worst comes to worst, I will just sell it. It was a perfectly running 22RE 5-speed.
Last edited by Terrys87; 12-17-2014 at 04:10 AM.
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Don't worry! You're not in that bad of a situation.
Sounds to me like you maybe just snapped one of the grounds? Not a big deal to fix. Wiring is actually really easy to fix up. You don't even need a soldering gun. Some heat shrink and a heat gun should do you
Can you post a pic of the wire in question, along with the associated terminal or connector that it broke off of? I'm sure we could help you identify it.
As far as the broken bolt, that is a common one- and yes it is a pain I'm sure. You're going to have to tackle that very carefully. I would get yourself a high quality screw extractor and a good set of drill bits that can handle hardened steel (I'm pretty sure those bolts are hardened steel). Carefully drill out the center of the bolt and use the screw extractor to get it out. Then chase the threads when you are done and clean the part where the bolt sits as well as possible.
My guess is that it will come out relatively easily once there is a hole through the middle of it. What tends to happen is that the bolts go down there and get vacuum locked by water and gunk- making it really hard to remove. Drilling a hole all the way through the center of the broken bolt will release this vacuum and it should come out easily, so don't worry just yet. Just make sure you drill right down the center and not into the threads
I'm sure you'll get some good replies and suggestions, I'm still pretty new at this stuff!
Good luck!
Sounds to me like you maybe just snapped one of the grounds? Not a big deal to fix. Wiring is actually really easy to fix up. You don't even need a soldering gun. Some heat shrink and a heat gun should do you
Can you post a pic of the wire in question, along with the associated terminal or connector that it broke off of? I'm sure we could help you identify it.
As far as the broken bolt, that is a common one- and yes it is a pain I'm sure. You're going to have to tackle that very carefully. I would get yourself a high quality screw extractor and a good set of drill bits that can handle hardened steel (I'm pretty sure those bolts are hardened steel). Carefully drill out the center of the bolt and use the screw extractor to get it out. Then chase the threads when you are done and clean the part where the bolt sits as well as possible.
My guess is that it will come out relatively easily once there is a hole through the middle of it. What tends to happen is that the bolts go down there and get vacuum locked by water and gunk- making it really hard to remove. Drilling a hole all the way through the center of the broken bolt will release this vacuum and it should come out easily, so don't worry just yet. Just make sure you drill right down the center and not into the threads
I'm sure you'll get some good replies and suggestions, I'm still pretty new at this stuff!
Good luck!
Last edited by jennygirl; 12-16-2014 at 12:57 AM.
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To get the Allen Bolt out, use a pair of vise grips just tight enough to twist the bolt loose. If you use just an Allen Wrench, it will strip out, it is in tight. Once you break the Allen Bolt loose, you then can use the Allen Wrench to finish removing and reinstall it.
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To get the Allen Bolt out, use a pair of vise grips just tight enough to twist the bolt loose. If you use just an Allen Wrench, it will strip out, it is in tight. Once you break the Allen Bolt loose, you then can use the Allen Wrench to finish removing and reinstall it.
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That is a product that has blown up in the last couple of years. I haven't tried it yet because I honestly don't have much trouble with rusted or stuck parts/bolts. Plus every time I fill out the order form I can't help but think "They want how much for this stuff?" lol
I was once again very close to placing an order for some the day I couldn't get my brake shoes off, still haven't tackled that one.
Last edited by Odin; 12-17-2014 at 08:49 PM.
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