rattlewagon

FOURWHEELER mag ran this in their last issue, thought it was a pretty neat article. And they just happened to use a 22R oil filters!

http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic...der/index.html

highonpottery

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good idea -- too bad you can't read the results though....FAIL! Four Wheeler Magazine, FAIL!

snobdds

That was my first thought...can't see the results.

rattlewagon

Thats funny, didn't notice that. They printed it nice and big in the Mag.

Ill try to scan the page and up load it.

suncomb1

I run a System 1 Oil Filter system. I like the fact that I can clean it and when I first installed it, I could design the system for the Oil pressure drop my motor needed.

DirtyOregonKid

http://www.midwestjeepthing.com/jeep...il_Filters.jpg

There, click that and if you can't read it click it again to zoom.

rattlewagon

DirtyOregonKid for the win!

FourwheelinVT

I read that too! Notice how the stock Toyota filter had one of the most filter media AND all metal internal parts.

woodyth

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So call me stupid but whats the best to use? 22r!

combatcarl

I don't see them say anything bad about purolator pure ones, tho, either. I run a PL30001(?) I think, big ol truck filter. No problems here..

Swimmerboy2112

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I run Toyota filters, they are the best IMO.

I once had a fram filter malfunction and never fill with oil, even since then i've been all Toyota.

DirtyOregonKid

Yeah, when I bought my 4runner it was running a fram filter. After about a month of owning it I did a timing job and when I took the filter off it was bone dry. Now I just get filters at the dealership.

wyoming9

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Napa gold or Wix where ever I happen to be when I need filters Just buy a case.

The same for the air and fuel filters

sb5walker

None of the small stock size filters are the best choice, imho, because they have too little surface area. The best are either the tall filters of the stock width, or the tall wide filters. Larger filters tend to have more media area and so flow better and last longer before clogging and bypassing. Toyota filters are good in the surface area category, but have rather large pores and don't filter all that well. Purolator PureONE filters are probably the best choice: excellent filtering efficiency and excellent flow. The PureONE in the tall stock width size is the PL20195 and the jumbo size is the PL30001. Both fit the 22RE but only the PL20195 fits the 3VZE. I've been using the PL20195 for the past year on my veezy, after 16 years of using the stock size Toyota 90915-YZZD1 and my oil is MUCH! cleaner for much longer with the PureONE. At this point I wouldn't even consider using something different.

The problem with the jumbo size filters is that they have a much higher volume, and so take longer to fill with oil at first, and that means a delay before oil starts circulating. If using that size, you should prefill them, allowing time for oil to fill the spaces behind the pleats, then quickly pour out the oil in the core and quickly try to get it on the motor, while spilling and dribbling oil over yourself and everywhere. I found that the PL20195 takes 3 seconds at first startup before oil pressure comes up and that's just about exactly the same time as it takes with the small Toyota filter, so I don't bother prefilling the PL20195 and don't think it's necessary.

I question the FOURWHEELER mag specs since the filter media area measurements are significantly higher than listed in other studies available online.

There's a lot of data and opinions on the subject in this thread:
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...filter-190242/

sb5walker

But that's for a part number that I think is very old and no longer available (15600-25010). Not sure where they found it. The filter Toyota will give you is the 90915-YZZD1 which is not as well constructed.

combatcarl

Ok, so it is the PL3001 I run. That thing is HUGE in there. But it keeps me happy, and my spendy rotella T6 nice and golden for 5k miles. Shameless plug there...

rattlewagon

Chart is now clickable.

waskillywabbit

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I buy the Toyota ones by the case. Change your oil regularly and the stock Toyota oil filter does just fine.

Nice article though.

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RSR

You can and should upsize your filter from the D1 (22re/3vze size) to D3 (Toyota V8 engine, Tundra, Land Cruiser, etc) size... Largely takes away the filtration area concern, and allows you to look the three things that really matter most -- filtration efficiency, pressure relief valve type and reliability, and anti-drainback valve effectiveness (less so for our engines than top mounts). And a larger filter also allows for increased oil capacity and slightly lower oil temps as well, both good things.

And there are also stuff like can thickness/construction (don't want a small rock to send all your oil to the trail offroad), how the core is perforated and how that affects flow too (some cheap filters have awful filter cores). If you really get into it, the top performers are Mobil1 Premium (K&N adn TRD are same/nearly so; and then Royal Purple a slight upgrade), Purolator PureOne, and then the Thai Toyota options (all American market filters, excepting new from Japan factory vehicles, have the Thai filters in them -- production went to Thai to reduce costs as the American consumer demanded cheap filters and filter quality was reduced for cost cutting as well over the Japan filters the stealerships used to sell). Definitely look on Amazon for filters. Some of the best prices I've seen.
EDIT: Amsoil filters are a good option too.
See here for some size listings: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116.../#post51439035

rattlewagon

^ Thats great advise! Thanks for posting!