Suspension Lift FAQ

***waskillywabbit*** · 11-09-2004, 06:28 AM

Feel free to add to this FAQ, but please do not post questions in this thread. Start a new thread for that.

Just a thought...seems like there is a huge amount of suspension lift/body lift information here on YT and other places, but it can be overwhelming to find the good threads w/o having to read through mounds of useless drivel.

Post up your good information/links please so we can have one place to send folks w/ questions instead of having 4.2 zillion newbie threads on "Tell me what lift I need"

If you post a link, please put a title somewhere as to what the link relates to, i.e. body lift, suspension lift and the generation of the vehicle.

3rd gen lift information
Steve Schaefer's 3rd gen 4Runner

1st gen lift information
All-Pro Offroad
Marlin Crawler
SKY-Manufacturing

4Hummer · 11-09-2004, 06:34 AM

BODY LIFT

ROGER BROWN AKA 4Crawler

www.4crawler.com

NUFF Said about that

SLC Punk · 11-09-2004, 06:41 AM

I thought Corey or someone was going to make a page for the lifts...

That was a year or so ago...

Anyways:

Performance Products 1" springs. Progressive rate, lifts it 1.5-1.75", does not sag when I pull my 3,400 lb boat. Handles a lot better.

bamachem · 11-09-2004, 07:29 AM

Best 3rd Gen ('96-'02) suspension lift for great flex and smooth street ride using 265/75-16 tires on 16x7 wheels. Do this suspension lift with a 1" Body Lift to run 285/75-16 tires on 16x8 wheels and you won't be disappointed.

http://sonoransteel.com

Pretacopower · 11-09-2004, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bamachem

Best 3rd Gen ('96-'02) suspension lift for great flex and smooth street ride using 265/75-16 tires on 16x7 wheels. Do this suspension lift with a 1" Body Lift to run 285/75-16 tires on 16x8 wheels and you won't be disappointed.

Front: (2.25-2.5")
Tundra TRD Coils up front (used or new, 2WD or 4WD - doesn't matter)
Old Man Emu N91S Firm Struts from wheeler's offroad
Extended Studs and a Pair of Top Out Spacers(from me- cheapest place to get them)

Rear: (2.5")
Old Man Emu 891 Coils (or Downey 3.5" (2.5" lift) coils for smoother ride)
Old Man Emu N86 Firm Shocks (You can get OME stuff from Wheeler's or you might get the 891's used.)
Toyota Conical Bumpstops

Cost:
Tundra Coils $100
N91S Firm Struts $212
Studs/Spacers $47
891 Coils $135
N86 Firm Shocks $149

Total: $643 + shipping

Here's the post that explains it all...

This lift would work for Taco's too, right? (just want to be sure)

bamachem · 11-09-2004, 12:07 PM

On the front it will, but you'll get about 2.0" without the top spacer. On the rear, you have leaf springs, so you'll need an AAL or something else.

Gangus2006 · 11-09-2004, 12:18 PM

Does anyon emake traction bars for the 3rd Gen 4R? (sorry if the question was stupid)

***Corey*** · 11-09-2004, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLC Punk

I thought Corey or someone was going to make a page for the lifts...

That was a year or so ago...

Very old page I made a few years back.
http://www.yotatech.com/~corey/artic...suspension.htm

It is listed on the Portal page listed in the Community section.

GodwinAustin · 11-10-2004, 09:57 AM

any links for 4x4 Tacoma Lifts pleasssssseeeeeee

4x4taco · 11-10-2004, 11:17 AM

Awesome, reasonably priced lift for '00 Taco's:
I have the v6, extended cab, and a TJM, and use the firm OME parts, if you have a lighter set-up, go with the softer components for a better ride

FIRM:
OME 882 coils
OME N91S front shocks
OME 2.25" Leaf springs
OME N85 rear shocks

MEDIUM:
OME 881 coils
OME N91SC front shocks
same leaf springs
OME N94 rear shocks

SOFT:
OME 880 coils
other components same as medium

I'm running 33x10.5s on the stock 15x7 wheels with almost no rub. The only rub occurred on the front of the rear fenderwells under full flex because the OME leafs move the rear axle foreward 1/2" to reduce axle wrap. This was fixed with some minor trimming.

With the sway bar disconnected, this set-up flexes very well for IFS! So far I've wheeled it in Moab and all over Colorado and it's held up great and retains a very good, stable road ride even at high speeds.

I got my lift on special from FJ60.com for $850 which was for an almost complete kit. Wheelers Offroad sells a complete kit with all bushings for just over a grand.

Adam F · 11-10-2004, 02:51 PM

I have some info on my website on how I lifted my 96 and 88 4Runners

www.toyotaoffroad.net/afertig

Jboy · 11-11-2004, 12:36 AM

Just wanted to ad these are awesome springs, provideds a mild 2" lift and the ride is superb. Sure beats those NWOR springs I had. Have yet to test them off-road.

FirstToy · 11-11-2004, 01:09 AM

2003-2005 4Runner (4th gen) & 2005 Tacoma
suspension lift
Spacers (if you have XREAS and want to keep it, spacers are what you want):
Daystar 2.5"
Revtek 3"
available at wheelersoffroad.com (good service and prices too)

Coilovers (not XREAS compatible):
Donohoe Racing
SAWs

Maximum tire size without any trimming of body, fenderliner or removal of plastic:
265-70/17

00Runner · 11-11-2004, 10:44 AM

1996 - 2002 4Runner (3rd Gen) V6 4x4

Front:
Revtek 3" lift spacers
2.5" of lift (w/ 99 or 00 stock springs)
Stock shocks

Rear:
Downey 3.5" coils
2.5" of lift (w/ stock tow package)
OME N86 shocks

Stump1883 · 11-11-2004, 07:55 PM

97' 4Runner(3rd gen) LTD 4x4

Front:
SAW(Sway Away) Race Runner Coilovers
- Adjustable from 0-2.5" of lift
- Easy to level out front to back with adjustability
- Easy to level ride height when adding weight with a new bumper or winch
- Quick and easy install
Rear:
Downey 3.5" lift coils
Bilstein HD Rear Shocks

Set up rides smooth and as mentioned above, eay to level out with the SAWs, quick adjustment. Smooth ride and almost no fade from front or rear, the new batch of SAWs are a bit more stiff than before but nothing like running a spacer only lift. My old spacer lift was stiff as anything, it's like night and day with the coilovers.

I can testify to bamachem set-up, very economical compared to the SAWs, and they give an amazing ride(tested by justinh and myself on some fast rough night rides through Tellico OHV). I'm actually thinking of switching to this set-up myself, smooth ride in the rough stuff and a good solid net lift(true 2.25-2.5").

calrockx · 11-11-2004, 08:39 PM

2002 4Runner 4wd

FRONT:

- Donahoe Racing Coilovers [more info]

REAR:

- Downey Coils [more info]
- Bilstein Shocks [more info]

The rear setup has been the same ever since I lifted the Runner, but originally I had stock A-Arms, springs and shocks, and only had a Cornfed 2.5 inch spacer. I upgraded to Donahoes for better resposnsiveness, lift adjustability, better off-road performance. The Donahoe's are awesome, and let me tall ya, they take the woop-de-doos a hell of a lot better than the stock setup.

I'm planning on upgrading the rear suspension to OME shocks one of these days. They'll give me better articulation than the Bilsteins. I may keep the Downey coils, I may go to OME, not sure yet.

The ride is good...to me. I'm not looking for a Cadillac expereince. It's still "rides like a truck", but I find the stiffer suspension more comfortable and responsive than stock, and wouldn't go back. My current setup gives me around 2.5" lift.

Bigkahuna808 · 11-13-2004, 10:32 AM

Hey all you newbies, and people even like me who are on the boards just about everyday. Listen to the sugestions of the above guys, they know thier stuff about thier 4runners. Word to the wise, they wouldnt sugest if it did not work. So I wouldnt waste your money on products that havent been recomeded. If its out there Im sure some here has tired it, and found out the pros and cons

Nathan Buchanan · 11-16-2004, 08:24 PM

For second gen runners, check out http://www.sdori.com/ for some ball joint spacers. That will give you 1.5" of front lift. They run a little over a hundred bucks. For the rear, I think you can get some coils from a land cruiser; I'm not sure exactly which ones or anything, I'm a pickup man.

doink · 11-16-2004, 09:28 PM

rear second gen suspension options:

http://www.allprooffroad.com/suspens...ilsprings.html

11-09-2004, 06:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
*waskillywabbit* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 11,520	Suspension Lift FAQ Feel free to add to this FAQ, but please do not post questions in this thread. Start a new thread for that. Just a thought...seems like there is a huge amount of suspension lift/body lift information here on YT and other places, but it can be overwhelming to find the good threads w/o having to read through mounds of useless drivel. Post up your good information/links please so we can have one place to send folks w/ questions instead of having 4.2 zillion newbie threads on "Tell me what lift I need" If you post a link, please put a title somewhere as to what the link relates to, i.e. body lift, suspension lift and the generation of the vehicle. 3rd gen lift information Steve Schaefer's 3rd gen 4Runner 1st gen lift information All-Pro Offroad Marlin Crawler SKY-Manufacturing __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC www.myspace.com/wabfab 6th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, May 22-25, 2009 WabFab Off-Road Salvation Army Online Kettle Last edited by waskillywabbit : 10-31-2005 at 06:32 PM.

11-09-2004, 06:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
4Hummer Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,986	BODY LIFT ROGER BROWN AKA 4Crawler www.4crawler.com NUFF Said about that __________________ Michael 1991 4Runner 22RE. CHOP www.obsessiveoffroadclub.com

11-09-2004, 06:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
SLC Punk Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 5,882	I thought Corey or someone was going to make a page for the lifts... That was a year or so ago... Anyways: Performance Products 1" springs. Progressive rate, lifts it 1.5-1.75", does not sag when I pull my 3,400 lb boat. Handles a lot better. __________________ -Travis 1997 4Runner SR5 V6 4X4 Supercharged Desert Dune SOLD :( 1992 Celica All Trac (AWD-Turbo) #223 of 271 US spec for 1992 FOR SALE 2005 Tundra Double Cab Limited 4X4 2.5" lift 265/70R17 Dueler Revo's 4Runner and Celica Webpage

11-09-2004, 07:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
bamachem Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 20	Best 3rd Gen ('96-'02) suspension lift for great flex and smooth street ride using 265/75-16 tires on 16x7 wheels. Do this suspension lift with a 1" Body Lift to run 285/75-16 tires on 16x8 wheels and you won't be disappointed. http://sonoransteel.com Last edited by bamachem : 02-16-2007 at 06:29 AM.

11-10-2004, 09:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
GodwinAustin Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Baker River Valley NH Posts: 1,067	any links for 4x4 Tacoma Lifts pleasssssseeeeeee __________________ -Jon 85 4Runner - 5Spd - 3 inch Downey spring lift - 2" body lift

11-09-2004, 12:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
bamachem Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 20	On the front it will, but you'll get about 2.0" without the top spacer. On the rear, you have leaf springs, so you'll need an AAL or something else.

11-09-2004, 12:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
Gangus2006 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fitchburg, MA Posts: 1,111	Does anyon emake traction bars for the 3rd Gen 4R? (sorry if the question was stupid)

11-10-2004, 11:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
4x4taco Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 180	Awesome, reasonably priced lift for '00 Taco's: I have the v6, extended cab, and a TJM, and use the firm OME parts, if you have a lighter set-up, go with the softer components for a better ride FIRM: OME 882 coils OME N91S front shocks OME 2.25" Leaf springs OME N85 rear shocks MEDIUM: OME 881 coils OME N91SC front shocks same leaf springs OME N94 rear shocks SOFT: OME 880 coils other components same as medium I'm running 33x10.5s on the stock 15x7 wheels with almost no rub. The only rub occurred on the front of the rear fenderwells under full flex because the OME leafs move the rear axle foreward 1/2" to reduce axle wrap. This was fixed with some minor trimming. With the sway bar disconnected, this set-up flexes very well for IFS! So far I've wheeled it in Moab and all over Colorado and it's held up great and retains a very good, stable road ride even at high speeds. I got my lift on special from FJ60.com for $850 which was for an almost complete kit. Wheelers Offroad sells a complete kit with all bushings for just over a grand. __________________ '00 Tacoma TRD TJM T-15 / OME 882 & 1" BL / "custom" intake / 33x10.5 BFG A/Ts on Teflon Chambers / Demello sliders Last edited by 4x4taco : 11-10-2004 at 11:21 AM.

11-10-2004, 02:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
Adam F Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 1,992	I have some info on my website on how I lifted my 96 and 88 4Runners www.toyotaoffroad.net/afertig __________________ Parting out 3vze V6, click for details 88 4Runner. In process of V8 swap

11-11-2004, 12:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jboy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Hawaiian Islands Posts: 393	OME 906 rear springs Just wanted to ad these are awesome springs, provideds a mild 2" lift and the ride is superb. Sure beats those NWOR springs I had. Have yet to test them off-road. __________________ 2000 4Runner 2" lift, not Frankenstruts, OME 906 rear springs/OME shocks MT/R 285/75R16 on AR Atlas 16x8 Offroad Solutions Manual Hubs kit

11-11-2004, 10:44 AM	#14 (permalink)
00Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Menlo Park, CA Posts: 726	1996 - 2002 4Runner (3rd Gen) V6 4x4 Front: Revtek 3" lift spacers 2.5" of lift (w/ 99 or 00 stock springs) Stock shocks Rear: Downey 3.5" coils 2.5" of lift (w/ stock tow package) OME N86 shocks __________________ - Brad 2000 4Runner SR5 4x4 5spd 3" Revtek spacer, ARB RD-90 front \| 3.5" Downey coils, E-locker rear \| 285/75 16 BFG M/T \| TJM T-17 \| RB Sliderz \| 1.5" RB BL \| BudBuilt skid \| 4.30s \| SS Rear Bumper onetruth

11-11-2004, 07:55 PM	#15 (permalink)
Stump1883 Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: High Point NC Posts: 2,182	97' 4Runner(3rd gen) LTD 4x4 Front: SAW(Sway Away) Race Runner Coilovers - Adjustable from 0-2.5" of lift - Easy to level out front to back with adjustability - Easy to level ride height when adding weight with a new bumper or winch - Quick and easy install Rear: Downey 3.5" lift coils Bilstein HD Rear Shocks Set up rides smooth and as mentioned above, eay to level out with the SAWs, quick adjustment. Smooth ride and almost no fade from front or rear, the new batch of SAWs are a bit more stiff than before but nothing like running a spacer only lift. My old spacer lift was stiff as anything, it's like night and day with the coilovers. I can testify to bamachem set-up, very economical compared to the SAWs, and they give an amazing ride(tested by justinh and myself on some fast rough night rides through Tellico OHV). I'm actually thinking of switching to this set-up myself, smooth ride in the rough stuff and a good solid net lift(true 2.25-2.5"). __________________ 97' 4Runner LTD -With a few toys Last edited by Stump1883 : 11-11-2004 at 07:59 PM.

11-11-2004, 08:39 PM	#16 (permalink)
calrockx Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Santa Clarita, California Posts: 4,746	2002 4Runner 4wd FRONT: - Donahoe Racing Coilovers [more info] REAR: - Downey Coils [more info] - Bilstein Shocks [more info] The rear setup has been the same ever since I lifted the Runner, but originally I had stock A-Arms, springs and shocks, and only had a Cornfed 2.5 inch spacer. I upgraded to Donahoes for better resposnsiveness, lift adjustability, better off-road performance. The Donahoe's are awesome, and let me tall ya, they take the woop-de-doos a hell of a lot better than the stock setup. I'm planning on upgrading the rear suspension to OME shocks one of these days. They'll give me better articulation than the Bilsteins. I may keep the Downey coils, I may go to OME, not sure yet. The ride is good...to me. I'm not looking for a Cadillac expereince. It's still "rides like a truck", but I find the stiffer suspension more comfortable and responsive than stock, and wouldn't go back. My current setup gives me around 2.5" lift. __________________ [2002 4Runner 4WD] Last edited by calrockx : 11-11-2004 at 08:41 PM.

11-13-2004, 10:32 AM	#17 (permalink)
Bigkahuna808 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oahu, Hawaii Posts: 768	Hey all you newbies, and people even like me who are on the boards just about everyday. Listen to the sugestions of the above guys, they know thier stuff about thier 4runners. Word to the wise, they wouldnt sugest if it did not work. So I wouldnt waste your money on products that havent been recomeded. If its out there Im sure some here has tired it, and found out the pros and cons __________________ '97 Sr5 2wd 4runner. I have NO lockers, NO Sliders, NO TRD, NO 4wd and I still decided to lift my 4runner.

11-16-2004, 08:24 PM	#18 (permalink)
Nathan Buchanan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 215	For second gen runners, check out http://www.sdori.com/ for some ball joint spacers. That will give you 1.5" of front lift. They run a little over a hundred bucks. For the rear, I think you can get some coils from a land cruiser; I'm not sure exactly which ones or anything, I'm a pickup man. __________________ Nathan Buchanan 1993 Toyota Pickup

11-16-2004, 09:28 PM	#19 (permalink)
doink Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atl. Georgia Posts: 3,072	rear second gen suspension options: http://www.allprooffroad.com/suspens...ilsprings.html __________________ -m. buy my bands record on iTunes LISTEN TO MY BAND PLEASE