how much it is going to cost me to sas my truck?

pitster33 · 11-17-2008, 08:40 AM

well I am trying to figure out how much it is going to cost me to sas my truck and I got every thing acounted for except the drivelines. Do I need to do any thing to the stock rear drive line with a 5 inch TG lift? Can I just have the front drive line extended at a drive line shop or do I have to buy an aftermarket one? If I need aftermarket then where do I buy one?

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netwt12 · 11-17-2008, 03:06 PM

figure 3k it can be done for less or for more but 3k is a good median figure.

pitster33 · 11-19-2008, 08:05 AM

Yeah thats what I figured about $3200. Because all I would need to do is have the front drive line extended right? The stock rear driveline would be ok????

4Crawler · 11-19-2008, 08:32 AM

Usually the rear shaft will be fine, depending on how much droop the new spring have. Front shaft will likely need to be lengthened, the CV joint clearanced for more angle and a longer slip yoke installed. Might contact HighAngleDriverline.com or see if your local shop can do that work for you. I think I paid about $300 for my front shaft to be rebuilt like that, although that was about 6 years ago, costs may be higher now.

netwt12 · 11-19-2008, 02:46 PM

or you can go with a cheap and easy square pipe front shaft.

4rnr · 11-19-2008, 06:25 PM

I had to extend my rear shaft but I moved the rear axle back 3.5". The stock slip yoke is fine in the back.

The front needs a longspline kit for sure. Because the front 3rd is offset, when the pass tire droops all the way out I used 6-8" of slip. Plus the front axle swings away from the t-case. definatly a long spline kit. I also suggest a u-joint for the front, operates at steeper angles before binding, andworks better with a flat pinion angle....

Birfailed · 04-10-2009, 06:33 PM

3K! You guys just buy all kinds of dont you. I know people that sas for 300 bucks! And wtf are you talking about a u-joint for the front? How else is he gonna hook it to the pinion...

YOTA_FORCE · 04-11-2009, 01:51 PM

You can get a lond travel @ http://www.trail-gear.com/driveshaft.html For $199.00 Trail gear is the .

yodathespian87 · 04-11-2009, 02:11 PM

Well this isn't really related, but it's my dumb question. Has anyone used Spidertrax housing in their SAS. I was thinking of using it for my 93 4Runner. thanks

**waskillywabbit** · 04-11-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Birfailed

3K! You guys just buy all kinds of dont you. I know people that sas for 300 bucks! And wtf are you talking about a u-joint for the front? How else is he gonna hook it to the pinion...

Not realistic at all. A welder costs more than $300.

RaginYota · 04-11-2009, 07:21 PM

I spent about 3K with mine, that includes the front and rear kit, front axel, gears for front and rear, locker for the front and front drivline... You will not be able to use your front driveshaft. As someone said earlier, the double cardan joint won't give the angle that you are going to need. I decided to go with a new set-up.

This one also balanced so I will be able to 4wd high if needed and not vibrate my teeth out. I hope this helps.

Birfailed · 04-12-2009, 04:28 PM

People do own welders. People don't usually buy one just for the fact that theyre gonna sas and then never weld anything else again. 3k if you pay a shop to do it is more realistic. whatever I dont care

**waskillywabbit** · 04-12-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Birfailed

3K! I know people that sas for 300 bucks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Birfailed

3k if you pay a shop to do it is more realistic.

BirFAILed.

$300 is completely unrealistic for probably 99.99% of the folks that SAS. This is assuming you already have a shop full of tools, get a bunch of junk yard or FREE parts, make all your own brackets and have free labor.

Birfailed · 04-12-2009, 11:26 PM

Free labor? As in "do it yourself". Right? You know as well as I do that the 3 major parts are, the front hanger, shackles, and hoops. Bam, ready for an axle and leafs. A front drivleline can be fabbed pretty well in a dudes garage at home. Oh, almost forgot, about my name. Went to longs, and started blowin diffs, I have to have a full cromo 60 under my rig now. So ya, Birfs Failed!

85excab · 04-12-2009, 11:50 PM

my last sas cost me less than $400

Birfailed · 04-13-2009, 12:10 AM

Yeah guys, seriously, wheres all your money even goin? I know another guy that sas's AND runs a full, hub to hub, bobby long toy axle for much less than 3k. The money needs to go into the axle itself. Puttin the axle under the truck is the cheap part.

yodathespian87 · 04-14-2009, 10:03 AM

I just saw 69 land cruiser axles for 200. Would that work? And then just add SAS kit right?

92yotaman · 04-29-2009, 11:08 AM

2 shops around here quoted me 1000 when i was first looking, and square shaft cost me about $20 in tube and 3hr of my time. The swap will cost more of course if you do longfeilds and such

Jaybob · 05-03-2009, 09:44 PM

here is the list I started with on my budget...... Front hanger kit(hanger,frame tubes,shackles,gussets) $195
U bolt flip kit($65 per front/rear) $130
Braided Brake Lines(2front/1rear) $90
Lower shock mounts for rear axle $20
Crossover Steering (2 arms,links,pitman) $389

None trail gear stuff
chevy 63's leafs to use in rear,used/junkyard $100ish
Ford Shock Towers(25each ish) $50
Misc Metal for rear spring hangers/shackles $50-75

Shocks, depending on brand $200-250 for 4
Misc (paint,bolts,whoknowswut else) $100

Notes.. Ive heard lots of great feedback when I did mine on another forum here is a link http://monkeycage.island4x4.com/showthread.php?t=45775 enjoy

I ended up paying $1565 canadian for my SAS
Lots of work tho.. good luck

J

gary96360 · 05-03-2009, 09:58 PM

lol jaybob i was checkin out that truck stock on usednanaimo a while ago.

Jaybob · 05-03-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gary96360

lol jaybob i was checkin out that truck stock on usednanaimo a while ago.

LMAO really thats hilarious.. Bet that guy wishes he kept it now.. I bought it for $3000 sold the rims/tires and flatbed and sas'd for $1500.. Pretty happy with it.. You from Nanaimo?

Cheers

gary96360 · 05-03-2009, 10:44 PM

yeah. do you live there too? i could have sworn i saw your truck the other night crossing the island highway onto boban. i spent about 3300 total on my truck, bought it for like 1400 and got another engine for it and i'm thinking about what to next with it.

Jaybob · 05-03-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gary96360

yeah. do you live there too? i could have sworn i saw your truck the other night crossing the island highway onto boban. i spent about 3300 total on my truck, bought it for like 1400 and got another engine for it and i'm thinking about what to next with it.

yup in nanaimo
LOL that was me i was headed to madman's audio install place...

got pics of your rig? send me a link..

gary96360 · 05-03-2009, 10:56 PM

http://s622.photobucket.com/albums/tt310/gary96360/ . the truck is stock. im going to install a 3 inch body lift on it tomorrow so im hoping that it goes well. just spent today body lifting a found on road dead f150 lol. i was thinking of doing a redneck sas on it using the rear leafs but im having second thoughts. i will probably wait doing a swap until i have a second vehicle.

Jaybob · 05-04-2009, 09:52 AM

Why body lift? Most peole will tell ya to never do one and if you do only do 2".. You should reconsider. Are you just trying to put some bigger tires on?? When ya can afford to SAS you should take out the body lift..

ONLY MY OPINION BRO..

You are were I stated 2 months ago.. (body lift and tires) lol

cheers bro..
J

11-17-2008, 03:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
netwt12 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Auburn,Al Posts: 518	figure 3k it can be done for less or for more but 3k is a good median figure. __________________ 1985 X-cab pickup. stock 1988 Trail Truck. SAS, Dual Cases, FROR Twin stick, 30 Spline Longs & IFS Hub Gears, Exoed, Aluminum Trail-Ready Beadlocks, 37" Boggers, and Extreme Rock Rash. 2008 Camry LE.

11-19-2008, 08:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
pitster33 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fortuna, CA Posts: 133	Yeah thats what I figured about $3200. Because all I would need to do is have the front drive line extended right? The stock rear driveline would be ok???? __________________ 91 xtra cab 3.0 trail gear 5" sas/ 5" rear kit, TG sliders, bumpers, flatbeded, 529's locked F&R

11-19-2008, 08:32 AM	#4 (permalink)
4Crawler Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 7,828	Usually the rear shaft will be fine, depending on how much droop the new spring have. Front shaft will likely need to be lengthened, the CV joint clearanced for more angle and a longer slip yoke installed. Might contact HighAngleDriverline.com or see if your local shop can do that work for you. I think I paid about $300 for my front shaft to be rebuilt like that, although that was about 6 years ago, costs may be higher now. __________________ 1985 Toyota 4Runner SR-5, 22REC engine, dual t-cases, 4.88 gears, dual ARBs, 33x10.50 BFGs or 35x12.50 MTRs r.c.brown@ieee.org TruckEditor@tlca.org Project: 4Crawler 4Crawler OffRoad Gettin'Off 4WD Club

11-19-2008, 02:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
netwt12 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Auburn,Al Posts: 518	or you can go with a cheap and easy square pipe front shaft. __________________ 1985 X-cab pickup. stock 1988 Trail Truck. SAS, Dual Cases, FROR Twin stick, 30 Spline Longs & IFS Hub Gears, Exoed, Aluminum Trail-Ready Beadlocks, 37" Boggers, and Extreme Rock Rash. 2008 Camry LE.

11-19-2008, 06:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	I had to extend my rear shaft but I moved the rear axle back 3.5". The stock slip yoke is fine in the back. The front needs a longspline kit for sure. Because the front 3rd is offset, when the pass tire droops all the way out I used 6-8" of slip. Plus the front axle swings away from the t-case. definatly a long spline kit. I also suggest a u-joint for the front, operates at steeper angles before binding, andworks better with a flat pinion angle.... __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

04-10-2009, 06:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
Birfailed Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 10	3K! You guys just buy all kinds of dont you. I know people that sas for 300 bucks! And wtf are you talking about a u-joint for the front? How else is he gonna hook it to the pinion...

04-11-2009, 01:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
YOTA_FORCE Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Alaska Posts: 6	You can get a lond travel @ http://www.trail-gear.com/driveshaft.html For $199.00 Trail gear is the .

04-11-2009, 02:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
yodathespian87 Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 464	Well this isn't really related, but it's my dumb question. Has anyone used Spidertrax housing in their SAS. I was thinking of using it for my 93 4Runner. thanks __________________ 86 Pickup 4x2, Manual (Sold) 87 Extra Cab Pickup 4x4, Manual (Sold) 93 4Runner 4x4, Manual, 3.4 Swap In progress 90 4Runner 4x4, Manual, Blown 3.0 (Stripping out for parts then to become a trail rig/camping/fun truck) 94 Lexus SC400, 1UZ, magnaflow exhaust, after market headlights, bought for parts for the swap into the 90 4Runner

04-11-2009, 07:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
RaginYota Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Beale AFB Ca ( Marysville) Posts: 272	I spent about 3K with mine, that includes the front and rear kit, front axel, gears for front and rear, locker for the front and front drivline... You will not be able to use your front driveshaft. As someone said earlier, the double cardan joint won't give the angle that you are going to need. I decided to go with a new set-up. This one also balanced so I will be able to 4wd high if needed and not vibrate my teeth out. I hope this helps. __________________ I did have a 1990 X-cab P/U, 3.0 SAS'd w/ 3" Trail Gear IFS Eliminator Kit, 4" Trail Gear Rear Lift Kit, 35" KM2s, Yukon 4.88s, Locked Front and Rear w/ Aussie and a Detroit, Sliders, M-8000 Warn Winch, But I sold it

04-12-2009, 04:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
Birfailed Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 10	People do own welders. People don't usually buy one just for the fact that theyre gonna sas and then never weld anything else again. 3k if you pay a shop to do it is more realistic. whatever I dont care

04-12-2009, 11:26 PM	#14 (permalink)
Birfailed Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 10	Free labor? As in "do it yourself". Right? You know as well as I do that the 3 major parts are, the front hanger, shackles, and hoops. Bam, ready for an axle and leafs. A front drivleline can be fabbed pretty well in a dudes garage at home. Oh, almost forgot, about my name. Went to longs, and started blowin diffs, I have to have a full cromo 60 under my rig now. So ya, Birfs Failed!

04-12-2009, 11:50 PM	#15 (permalink)
85excab Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Grand Junction, Co Posts: 458	my last sas cost me less than $400 __________________ i drive by brail. Rock Solid Motorsports http://www.rocksolidmotorsports.net/ http://www.lunatic4x4.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45

04-13-2009, 12:10 AM	#16 (permalink)
Birfailed Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 10	Yeah guys, seriously, wheres all your money even goin? I know another guy that sas's AND runs a full, hub to hub, bobby long toy axle for much less than 3k. The money needs to go into the axle itself. Puttin the axle under the truck is the cheap part.

04-14-2009, 10:03 AM	#17 (permalink)
yodathespian87 Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 464	I just saw 69 land cruiser axles for 200. Would that work? And then just add SAS kit right? __________________ 86 Pickup 4x2, Manual (Sold) 87 Extra Cab Pickup 4x4, Manual (Sold) 93 4Runner 4x4, Manual, 3.4 Swap In progress 90 4Runner 4x4, Manual, Blown 3.0 (Stripping out for parts then to become a trail rig/camping/fun truck) 94 Lexus SC400, 1UZ, magnaflow exhaust, after market headlights, bought for parts for the swap into the 90 4Runner

04-29-2009, 11:08 AM	#18 (permalink)
92yotaman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: boone, nc Posts: 66	2 shops around here quoted me 1000 when i was first looking, and square shaft cost me about $20 in tube and 3hr of my time. The swap will cost more of course if you do longfeilds and such

05-03-2009, 09:44 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jaybob Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nanaimo Posts: 17	here is the list I started with on my budget...... Front hanger kit(hanger,frame tubes,shackles,gussets) $195 U bolt flip kit($65 per front/rear) $130 Braided Brake Lines(2front/1rear) $90 Lower shock mounts for rear axle $20 Crossover Steering (2 arms,links,pitman) $389 None trail gear stuff chevy 63's leafs to use in rear,used/junkyard $100ish Ford Shock Towers(25each ish) $50 Misc Metal for rear spring hangers/shackles $50-75 Shocks, depending on brand $200-250 for 4 Misc (paint,bolts,whoknowswut else) $100 Notes.. Ive heard lots of great feedback when I did mine on another forum here is a link http://monkeycage.island4x4.com/showthread.php?t=45775 enjoy I ended up paying $1565 canadian for my SAS Lots of work tho.. good luck J __________________ 92 SAS'd Toy Ext cab: 85 solid axel front and rear, TG Front hanger kit, crossover steering, 5" skyjacker fronts, chev 63" rears, 3" Shackles, 4.56 v6 gears, Vented waggy rotors, braided brake lines, Ford shock towers and 14" shocks. "MUST... PUT.. DENTS." http://photobucket.com/jaybob Last edited by Jaybob; 05-03-2009 at 09:49 PM.

05-04-2009, 09:52 AM	#25 (permalink)
Jaybob Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nanaimo Posts: 17	Why body lift? Most peole will tell ya to never do one and if you do only do 2".. You should reconsider. Are you just trying to put some bigger tires on?? When ya can afford to SAS you should take out the body lift.. ONLY MY OPINION BRO.. You are were I stated 2 months ago.. (body lift and tires) lol cheers bro.. J __________________ 92 SAS'd Toy Ext cab: 85 solid axel front and rear, TG Front hanger kit, crossover steering, 5" skyjacker fronts, chev 63" rears, 3" Shackles, 4.56 v6 gears, Vented waggy rotors, braided brake lines, Ford shock towers and 14" shocks. "MUST... PUT.. DENTS." http://photobucket.com/jaybob

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