89 runn SAS w/ dana44?
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89 runn SAS w/ dana44?
1989 4runner 22RE
i know marlin and allpro make the bare kit for a garage SAS
anyone know what i need to do to make a dana 44 fit under for a standard (if u will) length? what it takes, how to etc...
worth the work? shld i find a yota axle instead...
motor has 225K, any tips to keep it in and add some pwr?
i know marlin and allpro make the bare kit for a garage SAS
anyone know what i need to do to make a dana 44 fit under for a standard (if u will) length? what it takes, how to etc...
worth the work? shld i find a yota axle instead...
motor has 225K, any tips to keep it in and add some pwr?
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You'll typically run into issues with a 44 because most of them are a drivers side drop axle. You need a passenger side drop. Another issue is they are garbage unless you spend tons of money upgrading them. Even then you'll never get them as strong as a gusseted Toy axle with Longfields. Somebody will argue with me on that one but I've changed out far more short side shafts in a 44 than Toy shafts on the trail.
As far as your 22RE it's tired and it didn't have that much power to start with. If you really want to stay with that motor and want some power contact Dave at www.davezoffroadperformance.com he builds a 22RE that will impress the heck out of you for a very reasonable price.
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Start with a Dana 44 from a '73 - '77 Blazer. Passenger side diff, spring-over-axle, 6x5.5" lugs, and the big 3" axle tubes. If you're lucky you can score one with a passenger side flat top knuckle for high steer.
Google for "narrow dana 44". There's tons of write-ups. Use Moser custom forged shafts to match the new length and to eliminate the Dana 44's weak point.
It's cheaper and easier to go with a Toyota axle, but a D44 is anything but "garbage".
Google for "narrow dana 44". There's tons of write-ups. Use Moser custom forged shafts to match the new length and to eliminate the Dana 44's weak point.
It's cheaper and easier to go with a Toyota axle, but a D44 is anything but "garbage".
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welcome to YT...I don't how a clue where "Chow" is but I see Toyota SA's on craigslist I all the time.
I would recommend that you stick with a Toyota axle unless you want to go width. A Toyota SA is as strong or stronger than a D44. You will be money ahead and have far less headaches keeping it Toyota, especially since it seems you are very new to this...
Parts sources (local would be better) shipping on an axle would be some $$$
Parts/Bumpers/Mounts
4Crawler Off Road: http://4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/ProductLine.shtml Custom body lifts, Driveshaft spacers, electrical solutions
Addicted Off Road: http://addictedoffroad.com/
TRD PARTS 4 U: http://trdparts4u.com/
4xinnovations: http://4xinnovations.com/
Marlin Crawler: http://marlincrawler.com/
trail-gear: http://www.trail-gear.com/
All Pro Off Road: http://www.allprooffroad.com/
Downey Off Road: http://www.downeyoff-road.com/
Dave' Off Road Performance: http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com/ Tube doors, third members, driveshafts,etc
Toyota Truck Dismantlers: body parts/axles etc
Davez Off Road: http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com/
Yotayard (colorado) http://www.yotayard.com/home.htm
Jim's Got Parts (Denver, CO) http://jimsgotparts.com/
California Mini Trucks (Cali) http://www.calminitruck.com/
NIX99 (washington state) http://nix99.com/
Rancho Toyota Truck Dismantler (Cali) http://www.ranchotoyotatruckparts.com/
Yotatech Classifields :https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f91/
TTORA Classifieds: http://ttora.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=3
Pirate classifieds: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=4
Toyota axle identification:
Toyota Mini Truck Front Axle Identification
79-80 no gusset
81-83 short gusset (to u-bolts)
84-85 long gusset (past u-bolts)
Stock Toyota front axle measurements for comparison:
55.5" wide, 29" spring perch centers, '79-85 Toyota trucks and 4runners, SA Hubs
58.25" wide, 29" spring perch centers, '79-85 Toyota trucks and 4runners, IFS Hubs
63.5" wide, (set up for coil springs) 90-97 FJ80 and FZJ80 Landcruisers
'86-95 IFS front end is about 58.5" wide
'93-98 T100 IFS front end is about 65" wide
Toyota Rear Axle Widths:
55" wide, '79-85 4wd trucks/4runners - 6 Lug
58" wide, '86-95 4wd trucks/4runners - 6 Lug
56" wide, '79-95 2wd Trucks - 5 Lug
60.75" wide, '95.5-up Tacomas/4runners
66.75" wide, '93-98 T100 trucks
ID Toyota Mini Truck axles
79-80 no gusset
81-83 short gusset (to u-bolts)
84-85 long gusset (past u-bolts)
I would recommend that you stick with a Toyota axle unless you want to go width. A Toyota SA is as strong or stronger than a D44. You will be money ahead and have far less headaches keeping it Toyota, especially since it seems you are very new to this...
Parts sources (local would be better) shipping on an axle would be some $$$
Parts/Bumpers/Mounts
4Crawler Off Road: http://4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/ProductLine.shtml Custom body lifts, Driveshaft spacers, electrical solutions
Addicted Off Road: http://addictedoffroad.com/
TRD PARTS 4 U: http://trdparts4u.com/
4xinnovations: http://4xinnovations.com/
Marlin Crawler: http://marlincrawler.com/
trail-gear: http://www.trail-gear.com/
All Pro Off Road: http://www.allprooffroad.com/
Downey Off Road: http://www.downeyoff-road.com/
Dave' Off Road Performance: http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com/ Tube doors, third members, driveshafts,etc
Toyota Truck Dismantlers: body parts/axles etc
Davez Off Road: http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com/
Yotayard (colorado) http://www.yotayard.com/home.htm
Jim's Got Parts (Denver, CO) http://jimsgotparts.com/
California Mini Trucks (Cali) http://www.calminitruck.com/
NIX99 (washington state) http://nix99.com/
Rancho Toyota Truck Dismantler (Cali) http://www.ranchotoyotatruckparts.com/
Yotatech Classifields :https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f91/
TTORA Classifieds: http://ttora.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=3
Pirate classifieds: http://pirate4x4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=4
Toyota axle identification:
Toyota Mini Truck Front Axle Identification
79-80 no gusset
81-83 short gusset (to u-bolts)
84-85 long gusset (past u-bolts)
Stock Toyota front axle measurements for comparison:
55.5" wide, 29" spring perch centers, '79-85 Toyota trucks and 4runners, SA Hubs
58.25" wide, 29" spring perch centers, '79-85 Toyota trucks and 4runners, IFS Hubs
63.5" wide, (set up for coil springs) 90-97 FJ80 and FZJ80 Landcruisers
'86-95 IFS front end is about 58.5" wide
'93-98 T100 IFS front end is about 65" wide
Toyota Rear Axle Widths:
55" wide, '79-85 4wd trucks/4runners - 6 Lug
58" wide, '86-95 4wd trucks/4runners - 6 Lug
56" wide, '79-95 2wd Trucks - 5 Lug
60.75" wide, '95.5-up Tacomas/4runners
66.75" wide, '93-98 T100 trucks
ID Toyota Mini Truck axles
79-80 no gusset
81-83 short gusset (to u-bolts)
84-85 long gusset (past u-bolts)
Last edited by rworegon; 08-14-2014 at 06:02 PM.