Flash319

Ya worth the money for the "special" times..........

stormin94

I use the Costco brand.

I have used Fram, and noticed no difference than the Purolator that I normally use.

Come on, it's an oil filter. It's got no moving parts, and you're gonna throw it away in 3000 miles anyway, why spend more?

Brenjen

Well it does have one moving part & that's the big deal with Fram, it's like not having an oil filter within five minutes of firing up the engine. All the oil is hitting the bypass in some of them from the start because the ball valve is screwed up & in the ones that aren't the media is way too fine...no, stay away from Fram & any relabels built by the co. that makes Fram; they aren't all the same.

MMA_Alex

the anti-drainbacks tend to leak on frams too, and lets the oil drain back into the pan, causing dry starts.

The low end purolator/wix filters are the same cost as the low end fram!

SEAIRESCUE

Wow, lots of subjective opinions on this one.

I have been using Fram for 40 years. New cars, old cars. Conventional motor oils and synthetics. I have yet to have an filter related engine problem. My conjecture is Fram prices their filters low and gets the volume of sales. Have any of their filters exploded, probably not. Are they concerned about dry starts, you bet. Do they want you to have a good experience using their products, you bet. Do they want a class action law suit for crappy filters, he11 no. So, go ahead and buy those $10 filters if it makes you feel good.

My $0.02

Paul H.

Toyota filters for me and Mobil 5000 5w30 oil.

Jay351

I would like to add, that I used to use fram filters all the time - only real reason I switched to the purolator premium pluss is because I changed which auto parts store I shop at (and they only stock those filters).

survivorman97

iTrader: (1)

I have been a Mobile 1 guy since forever. I mean how many companies can offer you and oil that they guarantee for 15,000 miles.Im not sayin that I buy the 15,000mile stuff but thats a pretty awesome claim when you think about it. I have used their filters too and havent really noticed much difference between them and a WIX except for the extra $6-7 bucks still im my pocket. But i would also avoid the Frams but thats just me.... Also has anyone ever tried using a bigger oil filter to get more oil capacity?

MMA_Alex

yep, trying it right now motorcraft fl-1a(manufactured by purolator). Same thread/seal size as the regular filters on the 22re.

the fl-1a is a pretty common filter because its what ford used on all of its v8's for years. I think it holds about twice what the stock filter holds.


the anti-drainback valves on frams dont seal properly. take it apart and see for yourself. they were actually well built filters way back when, but they're cheap crap now. If you have a filter on the bottom of the engine it doesent matter,but on the side, or top the oil will drain back by the poorly sealing antidrainback and cause a dry start.

feel free to use fram if you want, but you wont ever see fram on my truck!

muddpigg

iTrader: (1)

After I rebuild my motor I restarted using Frams as I always did. I friend of mine about demanded that I change to WIX. I did after only 500 mile on an oil change (the third oil change), ie spun the fram off and put the wix on. In one weekend, the oil changed colors!!! from black to a darker tan. I mean no see through to see through. Nope not exactly scientifical but convincing for myself.

After all "stupid is as stupid does"

Brenjen

Take one apart & look at it - I have. I've also used them for many years but if you think about it from a neutral standpoint, a car that got 115K out of an engine might have gotten 215K with a better oil filter. Also, Wix filters aren't any more expensive than Fram....just built better.

mr toytech

i have personally seen fram filters come apart an clogg up oil passages and take out a motor. seen it about four times. used to work for a used car lot in between toyota dealers.

X-AWDriver

Puralator PureOne for myself for the last 13 years and never had a problem and they are constructed well.

Here's a link

http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar...ers/index.html

And another

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfi...lterstudy.html

and also check the filters to avoid part which includes Fram
http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfi...ilfilters.html


I figure spend a little time with these pages and make a good choice since an oil filter is a big part of a motor's life and spending a couple more bucks might be a wise choice.

Racer944

What about those dual filtration units. Anybody know where to get one that fits a 3vze?

loacyota

Ive seen problems with the "High milage" oil sludging up. If you change your oil regulary then there is no need for it. I prefer wix filters in both my toyotas, and used wix filters when I was working on diesel trucks.

TOYOTA 1

that is the best deal, and its probably the best filter.

mt_goat

Yeah, lots of guys (including me), with the 3.4 engine. Should work for the 3.0 too. Just check the clearance.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/l...-media-102066/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/n...esults-126558/

Kaydon

It's all bunk.

I use Penzoil oil, with a Mobil 1 filter in my Toyota.

I hate this "use only toyota..." bandwagon.

Hilux808

I agree with the people about FRAM, esepcially there cheap sure grip orange ones. The tough gaurds are supposed to be better but you can try Napa Gold/Wix, Bosch and Purolator. For the price these filters are good and constructed well. The top of the line that I've heard of is K&N and Mobil 1. Both of these filters are really good but they come with the price. For oil any of the major brands are on the same lever as each other, Castrol, Valvoline, Quaker, Penzoil, etc. There all good. I even read that the Walmart Supertech brand is either Quaker or Penzoil but becasue it's sold as Walmarts brand it's much cheaper. High milage oil just means that there's extra seal conditioners in the oil to help swell the seal to prevent or slow leaks. If your engine isn't leaking then it's not required. Fix a leak the right way anyway.

PCE91V64x4

Mobile 1 filter and one of the high-mileage oils (at this moment Valvoline).

Advance Auto is only 5 minutes away so I see no point in driving farther to save $3.