new truck...carbed and slow. any help?

19RUNNER86 · 08-20-2007, 04:53 AM

yeah i just picked up a 87 pickup. it has a carb and it is dog slow. any ideas,options? how easy is a fuel injection swap? i have a fi 86 4runner and id like to swap everything i could to make this thing faster.

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jagger_snitt · 08-20-2007, 05:29 AM

The easiest thing might be to just upgrade to the weber carb. I've heard good things about them.

19RUNNER86 · 08-20-2007, 06:00 AM

any ideas where to get one?

jagger_snitt · 08-20-2007, 08:01 AM

Here is a place you can buy the kit. This was just a quick search. I'm not sure if you can get it for cheaper. It is a little pricey but I heard the really make them perform.
http://www.jtoutfitters.com/weber-ca...er-p-4720.html
Hope this helps.

19RUNNER86 · 08-20-2007, 08:31 AM

super sweet thanks man

ewong · 08-20-2007, 08:33 AM

is the carb'd truck a slushbox?
stock 4.10 gears and biggie tires?

jagger_snitt · 08-21-2007, 07:59 AM

no problem I hope that helps.

mehret · 08-21-2007, 08:41 AM

There's quite a few things you can do to it, but it depends on how deep your pockets are.

INFINITY · 08-21-2007, 08:42 AM

as far as the webers go check ebay. i think it is like kbwarehouse or something like that. they sell the 38 for $370shipped and the 32/36 for 300$ shipped. and yes they are a authorized dealer of redline weber (i talked with a sales rep for redline and he told me that they have been a dealer for a long time. do a search for 22r on ebay. gearing, cam and headers/exhaust.

drew303 · 08-21-2007, 11:11 PM

I have an 87 22R on 31's 4.10s and its not a dog...

Its got quite the getup ... and compared to a good running stock 22r 2wd 87' its surprisingly comparable...

I have NO complaints about the exceleration of my truck, or power for that matter.

a 22R compared to a 22RE on the streets you will not notice a power gain to a 22RE... I dont care who you are, you're full of crap. STOCK everything ofcourse.

19RUNNER86 · 08-22-2007, 07:55 AM

you also have a 2wd on 31's. less weight and smaller tires=not a dog

drew303 · 08-22-2007, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19RUNNER86

you also have a 2wd on 31's. less weight and smaller tires=not a dog

lol, no

We have two trucks, both 1987 22r's. One is 2wd and mine is 4x4.

The 2wd is on like ... probably 27" tires if that.. tiny winy

my rig is on 31's

you bought the same truck that I have.

jagger_snitt · 08-22-2007, 08:47 AM

I have two 4runners a 88' other is a 89'
the 88' is completely stock ecept for a drop in K&N air filter and an exhaust that is rusted off after the cat.
the 89' has the electric fan,2.5" exhaust,and the a/c belt off.
The 89 engine could lap my 88's all day.
I contribute it mainly to the electric fan. Both engines have been rebuilt.
I think alot has to do with what is taxing the engine.
On the 22RE's I think that fuel injection(carbon deposits)and gunk have alot to do with slowing them down. Clean EFI plus no taxation = nice power.

The 89 had stock 4.10s and I couldn't believe how well it pulled,after everyone saying that you have to have them regeared(it has 35x12.50 Mickey Thompson Baja Claws on 15x10 rims)
My only thought is it might have a heavier flywheel,although the previous owner said it didn't.

I think that if you really want more power the only way is taking off the restrictions A/c belt,fan clutch(add electric fan),and add bigger exhaust,air filter,carb. I believe these are the "Cheapest" things to get you the most bang for the buck.

A friend has a 22R in an extended cab pickup 85-89(don't remember)4x4 with 31's
Had the webber installed,he could bark the tires in second.
He was amazed at the power it had and he was a Jeep guy,he has a nice Rubicon(HI-out put V6) so for him to be suprised by its power is a testiment to me.

Hope this helps lead you in a positive direction

08-20-2007, 05:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
jagger_snitt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cleveland,Tn Posts: 368	The easiest thing might be to just upgrade to the weber carb. I've heard good things about them. __________________ "The Black Death" (DD)1988 4Runner 22RE 5Spd,StreetRvHead,261c Crawler cam,hi-output alt,35" BFG MTs,Optima Red Top. SAW 25mm T Bars,4Crawler BJ spacers,Tuff country 3" add-a-leaves,4.88 gears.Need 7.5 4.88 gears/thirdmember! PM ME!!! "The Silver Death"1987 4Runner SR5,22RE 5spd,4Crawler Short Throw Shifters T-cases and 5Spd,SAS,MC Dual cases,4.88s and detroits front and rear,Allpro Tripple-X transfer case mt w/drivetrain E-brake,TG rock sliders,3"susp,3"body.35" Maxxis Big Horn MTs

08-20-2007, 06:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
19RUNNER86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: boyertown, PA Posts: 222	any ideas where to get one? __________________ 86 4runnin new old engine fr/rr breather mods 32x11.5x15 muddies manual transmission(DEAD) 96 ford pimpscort auto awesome gas mileage(dead) 87 pickup 32's breather tubes(alive and well) Oh i understand your jeep thing...i just dont care.

08-20-2007, 08:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
jagger_snitt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cleveland,Tn Posts: 368	Here is a place you can buy the kit. This was just a quick search. I'm not sure if you can get it for cheaper. It is a little pricey but I heard the really make them perform. http://www.jtoutfitters.com/weber-ca...er-p-4720.html Hope this helps. __________________ "The Black Death" (DD)1988 4Runner 22RE 5Spd,StreetRvHead,261c Crawler cam,hi-output alt,35" BFG MTs,Optima Red Top. SAW 25mm T Bars,4Crawler BJ spacers,Tuff country 3" add-a-leaves,4.88 gears.Need 7.5 4.88 gears/thirdmember! PM ME!!! "The Silver Death"1987 4Runner SR5,22RE 5spd,4Crawler Short Throw Shifters T-cases and 5Spd,SAS,MC Dual cases,4.88s and detroits front and rear,Allpro Tripple-X transfer case mt w/drivetrain E-brake,TG rock sliders,3"susp,3"body.35" Maxxis Big Horn MTs

08-20-2007, 08:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
19RUNNER86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: boyertown, PA Posts: 222	super sweet thanks man __________________ 86 4runnin new old engine fr/rr breather mods 32x11.5x15 muddies manual transmission(DEAD) 96 ford pimpscort auto awesome gas mileage(dead) 87 pickup 32's breather tubes(alive and well) Oh i understand your jeep thing...i just dont care.

08-21-2007, 07:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
jagger_snitt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cleveland,Tn Posts: 368	no problem I hope that helps. __________________ "The Black Death" (DD)1988 4Runner 22RE 5Spd,StreetRvHead,261c Crawler cam,hi-output alt,35" BFG MTs,Optima Red Top. SAW 25mm T Bars,4Crawler BJ spacers,Tuff country 3" add-a-leaves,4.88 gears.Need 7.5 4.88 gears/thirdmember! PM ME!!! "The Silver Death"1987 4Runner SR5,22RE 5spd,4Crawler Short Throw Shifters T-cases and 5Spd,SAS,MC Dual cases,4.88s and detroits front and rear,Allpro Tripple-X transfer case mt w/drivetrain E-brake,TG rock sliders,3"susp,3"body.35" Maxxis Big Horn MTs

08-20-2007, 08:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
ewong Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Philly PA Posts: 1,290	is the carb'd truck a slushbox? stock 4.10 gears and biggie tires?

08-21-2007, 08:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
mehret Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mechanicsburg, PA Posts: 624	There's quite a few things you can do to it, but it depends on how deep your pockets are. __________________ 87 Toyota Pickup 22r, 5pd., 230,000 miles, 15x8 steels, 31x10.5x15 Federal Couragia M/T, tiger camo

08-21-2007, 08:42 AM	#9 (permalink)
INFINITY Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canyon Creek, AZ Posts: 643	as far as the webers go check ebay. i think it is like kbwarehouse or something like that. they sell the 38 for $370shipped and the 32/36 for 300$ shipped. and yes they are a authorized dealer of redline weber (i talked with a sales rep for redline and he told me that they have been a dealer for a long time. do a search for 22r on ebay. gearing, cam and headers/exhaust.

08-21-2007, 11:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
drew303 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,033	I have an 87 22R on 31's 4.10s and its not a dog... Its got quite the getup ... and compared to a good running stock 22r 2wd 87' its surprisingly comparable... I have NO complaints about the exceleration of my truck, or power for that matter. a 22R compared to a 22RE on the streets you will not notice a power gain to a 22RE... I dont care who you are, you're full of crap. STOCK everything ofcourse. __________________ 1987 Pickup, single cab, 22R, new head, 260 cam TG 3" SAS, rear disc brakes, chromoly rear axles, Chromoly Birfs, Tcase brake, 37x12.50R15 MT/Rs, 5.29 gears, rear Aussie Locker, front Detroit Truetrac.

08-22-2007, 07:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
19RUNNER86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: boyertown, PA Posts: 222	you also have a 2wd on 31's. less weight and smaller tires=not a dog __________________ 86 4runnin new old engine fr/rr breather mods 32x11.5x15 muddies manual transmission(DEAD) 96 ford pimpscort auto awesome gas mileage(dead) 87 pickup 32's breather tubes(alive and well) Oh i understand your jeep thing...i just dont care.

08-22-2007, 08:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
jagger_snitt Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cleveland,Tn Posts: 368	I have two 4runners a 88' other is a 89' the 88' is completely stock ecept for a drop in K&N air filter and an exhaust that is rusted off after the cat. the 89' has the electric fan,2.5" exhaust,and the a/c belt off. The 89 engine could lap my 88's all day. I contribute it mainly to the electric fan. Both engines have been rebuilt. I think alot has to do with what is taxing the engine. On the 22RE's I think that fuel injection(carbon deposits)and gunk have alot to do with slowing them down. Clean EFI plus no taxation = nice power. The 89 had stock 4.10s and I couldn't believe how well it pulled,after everyone saying that you have to have them regeared(it has 35x12.50 Mickey Thompson Baja Claws on 15x10 rims) My only thought is it might have a heavier flywheel,although the previous owner said it didn't. I think that if you really want more power the only way is taking off the restrictions A/c belt,fan clutch(add electric fan),and add bigger exhaust,air filter,carb. I believe these are the "Cheapest" things to get you the most bang for the buck. A friend has a 22R in an extended cab pickup 85-89(don't remember)4x4 with 31's Had the webber installed,he could bark the tires in second. He was amazed at the power it had and he was a Jeep guy,he has a nice Rubicon(HI-out put V6) so for him to be suprised by its power is a testiment to me. Hope this helps lead you in a positive direction __________________ "The Black Death" (DD)1988 4Runner 22RE 5Spd,StreetRvHead,261c Crawler cam,hi-output alt,35" BFG MTs,Optima Red Top. SAW 25mm T Bars,4Crawler BJ spacers,Tuff country 3" add-a-leaves,4.88 gears.Need 7.5 4.88 gears/thirdmember! PM ME!!! "The Silver Death"1987 4Runner SR5,22RE 5spd,4Crawler Short Throw Shifters T-cases and 5Spd,SAS,MC Dual cases,4.88s and detroits front and rear,Allpro Tripple-X transfer case mt w/drivetrain E-brake,TG rock sliders,3"susp,3"body.35" Maxxis Big Horn MTs

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