drop in 3rds

yoder519 · 12-01-2008, 10:28 AM

im gonna get a marlin crawler drop in 3rd. reason of that is it would be cheaper to buy that with a locker then to buy gears, lockers and have it set up. but form what i can tell marlin only makes them for the rear. does anybody know where to get a drop in 3rd for the front?with 5.29s and preferably lockrite locker. ive been searching for a while now and cant find crap. or if anyone has one for sell i may be interested in ti in about 2-4 months

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904_runner · 12-01-2008, 10:34 AM

check the classifieds on marlin or pirate4x4.

ive seen a few floating around for pretty cheap for the ifs fronts.

ocdropzone · 12-01-2008, 10:35 AM

try http://www.trail-gear.com/toy-diffs.html
http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com/
those are some off the top of my head

marlin has them here: http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/diff/pickup_diff.htm
the v6 third mounts front or rear (7.5" Ring gear) your IFS front is a 7.5
--call Marlin though to verify...

or you could also try contacting Zuk at http://gearinstalls.com/ he installs gears for people..just ship him your third

I take it this is for the '95 in your sig?

yoder519 · 12-01-2008, 10:39 AM

yea its for my 95. and the only place around here that i truct to do it is gonna charge me $1499.00 for gears front and rear the install kist fluids and install. and that dont even include lockers! but thanks alot for the links

ocdropzone · 12-01-2008, 10:41 AM

check around your local wheeling clubs. There are a few guys around the pacific Northwest that charge $150-200 for set up on each third. Just provide the parts...disadvantage is no real warranty...

yoder519 · 12-01-2008, 10:43 AM

those from trailgear and marlin are for the rear only tho aint they? are you sayin that i could get the 4cyl for rear and the v6 would mount to the fornt of my 22re?

Jay351 · 12-01-2008, 11:22 AM

As far as I know, nobody offers a complete built front IFS diff in the aftermarket.

I would look on CL for somebody who is unloading their parts after a SAS. Or buy a cheap 4.10 front diff, get your gears and lockers, get them set and install it yourself!

yoder519 · 12-01-2008, 11:27 AM

yea im gonna install my 3rds myself. and i was gonna pay someone to set them up. btu not no 1500 bucks. thats why i was wnating drop ins. i guess ill just have to buy the drop in rears form marlin with 5.29s and a lockrite. im gonna run 35x10.50 ssr's. jay, did you have to have any more extensions of any sort for lift your lift? other than the lspv? im gonna run the same thing on mine. with some trimming

Jay351 · 12-01-2008, 11:44 AM

Nope

I extended the LSPV like you mentioned, and that was it. It was nice to have brakes again

yoder519 · 12-01-2008, 12:01 PM

righ ton . thats what i was hopin. im goin 3in body, my bj pacers and 2inch aal. so ill need to extend it 5 or 2 inches?

Matt16 · 12-01-2008, 12:11 PM

If I were you, I'd buy the gears for the front, reuse your front diff, get someone to set up the gears, then install the locker yourself. Resetting the backlash is pretty easy and that's all you need to do when installing a locker.

With spider gear replacements (Aussie, Lock Right EZ, Locker), you can just replicate the existing BL, with an ARB or Detroit, you need a dial indicator. With the ARB, you need to set up the air line as well. The BL isn't hard at all, and the air line routing look too difficult either.

trbizwiz · 12-01-2008, 12:27 PM

I have an empty rear third (with used bearings, i think they are good), and a good front third, with 4.30 gears. I would sell the rear for $100 and the front for $125. I would have to check on shipping. If you like I can ship them directly to whom ever you would have set them up. I think Zuk charges around $150 for setup and there is a company on pirate that is about the same. If you are having one set up , I have heard that Aussie is a better locker than lock right, but they only have it for the 4 cyl, so you would want to use 4 cyl gears. I think the only difference is the 4 cyl has 2 spider gears adn the 6 has four, and I think the locker replaces those anyway. But you will want to research that.

yoder519 · 12-01-2008, 04:08 PM

thank ye for the offer trbizwiz but i think im gonna get the marlin rear with a lockrite and 5.29s. and if your front 3rd had 5.29s the we could tlak buisness lol

Jay351 · 12-01-2008, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoder519

righ ton . thats what i was hopin. im goin 3in body, my bj pacers and 2inch aal. so ill need to extend it 5 or 2 inches?

With a 2" AAL I would extend it 2" The LSPV mounts to the frame and to the axle, so a body lift doesnt change the angle at all.

I had actually made mine a little longer then I should have. Because of the bigger tires I had found my braking was pretty bad. So I lifted my lspv about .5" over stock, so the truck thinks its loaded down partially now.
I have working rear ABS so im not worried about the tires locking up.

swaycleveland · 12-01-2008, 04:32 PM

IN ZUK WE TRUST. and im sure you can get front and rear thirds for less then 150 a piece try ... car-parts.com im SURE you can get them their and Zuk will you you right on the rest

tc · 12-01-2008, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay351

As far as I know, nobody offers a complete built front IFS diff in the aftermarket.

I would look on CL for somebody who is unloading their parts after a SAS. Or buy a cheap 4.10 front diff, get your gears and lockers, get them set and install it yourself!

x2

Check TrailGear and Randy's R&P for good prices on built thirdmembers for the rear too!

12-01-2008, 10:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
904_runner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chico, California Posts: 3,782	check the classifieds on marlin or pirate4x4. ive seen a few floating around for pretty cheap for the ifs fronts. __________________ Mike 1990 4runner: 3.4 swapped, 5-speed, sas'd, Rear leaf swap, Locked, 5.29's, 39.5" iroks on Beadlocks, Armor'd Longfields, Duals coming soon: My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/904_run...thread-158746/ http://www.treadlightly.org/ http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ery/index.html

12-01-2008, 10:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,711	try http://www.trail-gear.com/toy-diffs.html http://www.davezoffroadperformance.com/ those are some off the top of my head marlin has them here: http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/diff/pickup_diff.htm the v6 third mounts front or rear (7.5" Ring gear) your IFS front is a 7.5 --call Marlin though to verify... or you could also try contacting Zuk at http://gearinstalls.com/ he installs gears for people..just ship him your third I take it this is for the '95 in your sig? __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

12-01-2008, 10:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
yoder519 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: virginia Posts: 1,005	yea its for my 95. and the only place around here that i truct to do it is gonna charge me $1499.00 for gears front and rear the install kist fluids and install. and that dont even include lockers! but thanks alot for the links __________________ Sold&Missed 95 Yota pu 22RE/33x12.50 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders/TG Sliders/4Crawler 2in BL//TG Diff Breather/Herculined Floorboard/Magnaflow Hi-Flow Cat/2.25" Exhaust/Glasspack/Procomp black steelies/Procomp shocks/Superlift 2" AALs/4 Crawler 1.5" BJers 1998 Dodge Cummins 24V 4x4 5spd/Quad Arenaline/4in Exhaust/6in Tip/AFE Intake

12-01-2008, 10:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,711	check around your local wheeling clubs. There are a few guys around the pacific Northwest that charge $150-200 for set up on each third. Just provide the parts...disadvantage is no real warranty... __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

12-01-2008, 10:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
yoder519 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: virginia Posts: 1,005	those from trailgear and marlin are for the rear only tho aint they? are you sayin that i could get the 4cyl for rear and the v6 would mount to the fornt of my 22re? __________________ Sold&Missed 95 Yota pu 22RE/33x12.50 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders/TG Sliders/4Crawler 2in BL//TG Diff Breather/Herculined Floorboard/Magnaflow Hi-Flow Cat/2.25" Exhaust/Glasspack/Procomp black steelies/Procomp shocks/Superlift 2" AALs/4 Crawler 1.5" BJers 1998 Dodge Cummins 24V 4x4 5spd/Quad Arenaline/4in Exhaust/6in Tip/AFE Intake

12-01-2008, 11:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,640	As far as I know, nobody offers a complete built front IFS diff in the aftermarket. I would look on CL for somebody who is unloading their parts after a SAS. Or buy a cheap 4.10 front diff, get your gears and lockers, get them set and install it yourself! __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

12-01-2008, 11:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
yoder519 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: virginia Posts: 1,005	yea im gonna install my 3rds myself. and i was gonna pay someone to set them up. btu not no 1500 bucks. thats why i was wnating drop ins. i guess ill just have to buy the drop in rears form marlin with 5.29s and a lockrite. im gonna run 35x10.50 ssr's. jay, did you have to have any more extensions of any sort for lift your lift? other than the lspv? im gonna run the same thing on mine. with some trimming __________________ Sold&Missed 95 Yota pu 22RE/33x12.50 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders/TG Sliders/4Crawler 2in BL//TG Diff Breather/Herculined Floorboard/Magnaflow Hi-Flow Cat/2.25" Exhaust/Glasspack/Procomp black steelies/Procomp shocks/Superlift 2" AALs/4 Crawler 1.5" BJers 1998 Dodge Cummins 24V 4x4 5spd/Quad Arenaline/4in Exhaust/6in Tip/AFE Intake

12-01-2008, 11:44 AM	#9 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,640	Nope I extended the LSPV like you mentioned, and that was it. It was nice to have brakes again __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

12-01-2008, 12:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
yoder519 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: virginia Posts: 1,005	righ ton . thats what i was hopin. im goin 3in body, my bj pacers and 2inch aal. so ill need to extend it 5 or 2 inches? __________________ Sold&Missed 95 Yota pu 22RE/33x12.50 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders/TG Sliders/4Crawler 2in BL//TG Diff Breather/Herculined Floorboard/Magnaflow Hi-Flow Cat/2.25" Exhaust/Glasspack/Procomp black steelies/Procomp shocks/Superlift 2" AALs/4 Crawler 1.5" BJers 1998 Dodge Cummins 24V 4x4 5spd/Quad Arenaline/4in Exhaust/6in Tip/AFE Intake

12-01-2008, 12:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
trbizwiz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 351	I have an empty rear third (with used bearings, i think they are good), and a good front third, with 4.30 gears. I would sell the rear for $100 and the front for $125. I would have to check on shipping. If you like I can ship them directly to whom ever you would have set them up. I think Zuk charges around $150 for setup and there is a company on pirate that is about the same. If you are having one set up , I have heard that Aussie is a better locker than lock right, but they only have it for the 4 cyl, so you would want to use 4 cyl gears. I think the only difference is the 4 cyl has 2 spider gears adn the 6 has four, and I think the locker replaces those anyway. But you will want to research that. __________________ [b]Tom H Mt Vernon, MO 1992 Toyota DLX 4x4 reg cab 3.slow 5 speed MODS: chevy 63 swap, frame rust repair, SDORI BJ spacers, OME shocks up front doestch tech shocks rear, Downey headers, energy suspension bushings http://www.yotatech.com/f151/project-oxy-moron-151018/

12-01-2008, 04:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
yoder519 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: virginia Posts: 1,005	thank ye for the offer trbizwiz but i think im gonna get the marlin rear with a lockrite and 5.29s. and if your front 3rd had 5.29s the we could tlak buisness lol __________________ Sold&Missed 95 Yota pu 22RE/33x12.50 Maxxis Buckshot Mudders/TG Sliders/4Crawler 2in BL//TG Diff Breather/Herculined Floorboard/Magnaflow Hi-Flow Cat/2.25" Exhaust/Glasspack/Procomp black steelies/Procomp shocks/Superlift 2" AALs/4 Crawler 1.5" BJers 1998 Dodge Cummins 24V 4x4 5spd/Quad Arenaline/4in Exhaust/6in Tip/AFE Intake

12-01-2008, 04:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
swaycleveland Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: north ridgeville ohio Posts: 382	IN ZUK WE TRUST. and im sure you can get front and rear thirds for less then 150 a piece try ... car-parts.com im SURE you can get them their and Zuk will you you right on the rest __________________ 1993 4runner 4x4 3.0 automatic 237k and counting $1600. new cat and muffler factory 488s REAR SUPRA LSD MOD BY ZUK manual lock out upgrade! new moog rear coils! new Paint ! mc rear bumper trail gear sliders 16x7 2001 rims with 285 terra grapplers NO LIFT Taurus e fan mod 1st gen rollbar custom 1/8inch front skid next up .... tank relocation

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