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11-09-2014, 02:59 PM
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Hi everyone. I have a question.... and yes I read through a good 60 % of this thread (again ? 
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So, I have been working on gathering my 1.5 inch lift components (suspension of course). I found some progressive rate coils for the rear that I think I want ( http://www.northwestoffroad.com/part...suspension.php ) if anyone has any input on those please speak up!
So, this brings me to my question/concern. I want as much flex as I can get out of my rear end. I do take this thing offroading but I need to maintain a decent height and road going abilities. So, I was thinking that perhaps a longer yet softer spring would be beneficial... My idea is that when one side is compressing and the other side extending, the short spring stops pushing down on the axle long before shock reaches it's length limit. And those few inches are not really adding any traction since the spring is not compressed at all anymore. ANYWAY, so has anyone tried something like this? Or, are some of these aftermarket springs already accounting for this? (I understand installation of the springs will be difficult.. that's ok)
)So, I have been working on gathering my 1.5 inch lift components (suspension of course). I found some progressive rate coils for the rear that I think I want ( http://www.northwestoffroad.com/part...suspension.php ) if anyone has any input on those please speak up!
So, this brings me to my question/concern. I want as much flex as I can get out of my rear end. I do take this thing offroading but I need to maintain a decent height and road going abilities. So, I was thinking that perhaps a longer yet softer spring would be beneficial... My idea is that when one side is compressing and the other side extending, the short spring stops pushing down on the axle long before shock reaches it's length limit. And those few inches are not really adding any traction since the spring is not compressed at all anymore. ANYWAY, so has anyone tried something like this? Or, are some of these aftermarket springs already accounting for this? (I understand installation of the springs will be difficult.. that's ok)
If your interested your welcome to pm me. I planned on selling these. They are essentially the same thing as the ones your looking at.
Either way you won't be disappointed.
I fit 33's nicely and with 35's had a slight rub.
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11-09-2014, 03:16 PM
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Hi everyone. I have a question.... and yes I read through a good 60 % of this thread (again ? )
So, I have been working on gathering my 1.5 inch lift components (suspension of course). I found some progressive rate coils for the rear that I think I want ( http://www.northwestoffroad.com/part...suspension.php ) if anyone has any input on those please speak up!
So, this brings me to my question/concern. I want as much flex as I can get out of my rear end. I do take this thing offroading but I need to maintain a decent height and road going abilities. So, I was thinking that perhaps a longer yet softer spring would be beneficial... My idea is that when one side is compressing and the other side extending, the short spring stops pushing down on the axle long before shock reaches it's length limit. And those few inches are not really adding any traction since the spring is not compressed at all anymore. ANYWAY, so has anyone tried something like this? Or, are some of these aftermarket springs already accounting for this? (I understand installation of the springs will be difficult.. that's ok)
)So, I have been working on gathering my 1.5 inch lift components (suspension of course). I found some progressive rate coils for the rear that I think I want ( http://www.northwestoffroad.com/part...suspension.php ) if anyone has any input on those please speak up!
So, this brings me to my question/concern. I want as much flex as I can get out of my rear end. I do take this thing offroading but I need to maintain a decent height and road going abilities. So, I was thinking that perhaps a longer yet softer spring would be beneficial... My idea is that when one side is compressing and the other side extending, the short spring stops pushing down on the axle long before shock reaches it's length limit. And those few inches are not really adding any traction since the spring is not compressed at all anymore. ANYWAY, so has anyone tried something like this? Or, are some of these aftermarket springs already accounting for this? (I understand installation of the springs will be difficult.. that's ok)
11-09-2014, 03:42 PM
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I cut my rear bump stops at the first narrow section, so about 1.5 inches. The cheapo moneroes don't bottom out and I get a lot more room to dampen the big bumps (most noticeable on the streets).. anyway that was a side thought.. lol.
about the 1.5 inch downeys (i sent pm to but this question may help others to).. that spring is called a leveling lift. Well, i'm doing a 1.5 inch suspension lift on the front as well (spacers)... so will I need a 3 inch to bring to level frame? I got some moog springs earlier, stock replacement, and the car is not drooping at all so I have no leveling needs but actual lift to match the front.
about the 1.5 inch downeys (i sent pm to but this question may help others to).. that spring is called a leveling lift. Well, i'm doing a 1.5 inch suspension lift on the front as well (spacers)... so will I need a 3 inch to bring to level frame? I got some moog springs earlier, stock replacement, and the car is not drooping at all so I have no leveling needs but actual lift to match the front.
01-29-2015, 02:55 PM
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Have any of you guys running the LC coil/BJ spacer lift had any alignment issues after installation? I stopped by the stealership today to pick up some clips for my new grille and one of the parts guys said I'll never get it aligned right without extended Upper Control Arms. He said I could find some on ebay so I don't think he was trying to upsell me.
02-04-2015, 11:44 AM
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Does anyone know how much lift fj100 coils will give a 95 4Runner? I haven't put them on yet, and I thought I could save some time by asking here before I did it.
02-04-2015, 11:58 AM
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3"-4" is typical:
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...anhardDropBrkt
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...anhardDropBrkt
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Lifted 1991 4Runner hight??????
I have a 91 4Runner SR5 that already had a lift and body lift on the truck. My question is, does any one know how(or if) it is possible to measure how big of a lift is in this truck? It currently sits on 33x12.5 Super Swampers and they look a little on the small side. The guy I got the truck from didn't have it put in either, so he couldn't tell me how big it was either.
I will post a pic of the truck as soon as i can. But in the mean time, any info you guys could pass along would be appreciated. Thanks
I will post a pic of the truck as soon as i can. But in the mean time, any info you guys could pass along would be appreciated. Thanks
03-10-2015, 06:45 AM
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- http://4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/Coil...anhardDropBrkt
03-10-2015, 08:58 AM
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I would advise against it all other than the 1.5" BJ spacer.
T-bar crank means less flex. Height is a tippy waste without it.
Body lifts are a waste unless you are cramming massive tyres. As you are not you don't need it. I have a body lift to fit 35" tires but I don't even need my 3" body lift and I've wanted it gone for ages. It came with the rig. I will be pulling it with my 3rd rebuild upcoming.
Get the HD coils for your rear end. Old Man Emu makes them and they give you enough to clear 35" tires with a little trimming or at most a 1" body lift. They heavy Duty coils also allow you to wheel with weight. Even with stiff suspension if you are really wheeling it will flex it its maximum capability.
I have done just about everything you can to an IFS 4Runner. I have pushed every version of my build to the literal breaking point from the near Arctic in Canada to SoCal and Moab.
My next build version of the same rig is to cut apart the frame to C-Notch it and do an SAS with an FJ62 front axle and custom rear. I also plan on having custom sway bars made and I will only disconnect them under extreme conditions. I have leant that stability on the trail is more important than another inch of flex.
Go and check my thread and perhaps avoid some expensive lessons.
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03-10-2015, 09:04 AM
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I have a 91 4Runner SR5 that already had a lift and body lift on the truck. My question is, does any one know how(or if) it is possible to measure how big of a lift is in this truck? It currently sits on 33x12.5 Super Swampers and they look a little on the small side. The guy I got the truck from didn't have it put in either, so he couldn't tell me how big it was either.
I will post a pic of the truck as soon as i can. But in the mean time, any info you guys could pass along would be appreciated. Thanks
I will post a pic of the truck as soon as i can. But in the mean time, any info you guys could pass along would be appreciated. Thanks
I would bet a 3" body lift. My 33's looked small when I bough Red.
On 35's its much better looking but I'm still pulling it out first chance I get.
03-10-2015, 09:05 AM
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Have any of you guys running the LC coil/BJ spacer lift had any alignment issues after installation? I stopped by the stealership today to pick up some clips for my new grille and one of the parts guys said I'll never get it aligned right without extended Upper Control Arms. He said I could find some on ebay so I don't think he was trying to upsell me.
You can get an alignment fine.
It's when you go long travel IFS that alignment gets ˟˟˟y. I have destroyed tires with my long travel set up.
03-14-2015, 11:39 AM
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Long Travel IFS built around factory pivots is not designed to compete with a "Rock Bouncer" style rig. KOH and other Ultra 4 rides using IFS are so far removed from a bolt on IFS LT systems its not a fair comparison. You wouldn't expect a bone stock 1985 live axle truck to survive, so why would you expect a 1986 IFS truck with longer control arms?
I tip my hat to Andrew (Red Wagon) for pushing the limits, but that is not the typical experience people running IFS LT are having according to my feedback.
Perhaps in Andrews case the 35" M/T tire on a 10" wide rim combined with 3-1/2" longer control arms with a 3" body lift isn't the right application for what he is wanting to do with his ride! Forcing the rig through John Bull or Moab like its a rock bouncer is going to cause problems with alignment and tire wear. Combine that with thousands of street miles between trails and you have an impressive journey. However, I would expect some alignment and wear issues.
Typically my customers are reporting positive feedback. I have had one or two customers, out of 100+ installations, with alignment complications. This was easily corrected with a replacement UCA Extension Brackets configured to reduce positive camber.
Andrew has some good points and I respect and appreciate his feedback. Take his advice, do some research to find out how you go about building your Yota.
I tip my hat to Andrew (Red Wagon) for pushing the limits, but that is not the typical experience people running IFS LT are having according to my feedback.
Perhaps in Andrews case the 35" M/T tire on a 10" wide rim combined with 3-1/2" longer control arms with a 3" body lift isn't the right application for what he is wanting to do with his ride! Forcing the rig through John Bull or Moab like its a rock bouncer is going to cause problems with alignment and tire wear. Combine that with thousands of street miles between trails and you have an impressive journey. However, I would expect some alignment and wear issues.
Typically my customers are reporting positive feedback. I have had one or two customers, out of 100+ installations, with alignment complications. This was easily corrected with a replacement UCA Extension Brackets configured to reduce positive camber.
Andrew has some good points and I respect and appreciate his feedback. Take his advice, do some research to find out how you go about building your Yota.
