22rte wont start

86turbotoy · 12-12-2008, 11:32 AM

any help im geting fuel to the cold start injecter and i have spark cant figure out what it can be timing has been checked. The engine was just rebuilt anyone know what it can be. there is a white double plug under the intake by the fire wall one plug goes to the transmission where does the other one go.

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annoyingrob · 12-12-2008, 12:07 PM

Is the distributor 180* out?

TOYOTA 1 · 12-12-2008, 12:13 PM

^x2.. does it even try to run?

there should be 3 plugs..

1 goes to the tranny for reverse lights. one goes to the o2 sensor, and one goes to you transfer case for the 4x4 light.

tc · 12-12-2008, 12:16 PM

Only 3 things to check - fuel, spark, air(compression) and you've checked 1.5 of them.

x3 for distributor 180* out.

86turbotoy · 12-12-2008, 12:40 PM

it wont even attept to fire i have checked the timming a couple times. I cant put my finger on what is wrong its driving me crazy.

86turbotoy · 12-12-2008, 01:16 PM

anyone got any other ideas

regularjoe · 12-12-2008, 04:33 PM

would you have spark even if it was 180 out? I dont know alot about the subject.

86turbotoy · 12-13-2008, 10:32 AM

I belive it would have spark if it was 180 out. i have spark but it is very faint i think it might be the ignighter anyone know how to check if its good.

89whitetoyota · 12-13-2008, 10:45 AM

If its isnt even turning over check
1. starter is actually in the hole, i had mine fall out on the way home from work last week, and wire brush the contacts and terminal
2. check fuses takes about 4 minutes to check all of them
3. make sure all of your grounds are hooked up (valve cover, chasis to engine coming of starter wire)

If it is rotating but not catching check
1. if it cranks all slow or backfires out of the air box, turn your dist around
2. pull the 19mm bolt going to the fuel rail, you will need a new crush washer, and see if you have a steady stream of fuel with the key turned to acc. dont try to start but see if you have constant flow (fill a beer can in a minute or so), if this is weak it could be sending unit, pump or pressure reg.
3. make sure all of your plug wires are on the correct spot, plug wire 1 on the number 1 location on the cap.
4. Spray some brake cleaner in the throttle body while attempting to start, and see what that does.

86turbotoy · 12-13-2008, 11:18 AM

the moter turns over fine all my grounds are hooked up im getting fuel to my cold start injecter. its just like theres not alot of spark

TOYOTA 1 · 12-13-2008, 12:13 PM

weird.. is there somebody you could swap out igniter/coils with?

86turbotoy · 12-13-2008, 12:35 PM

ya i have wait till monday my friend has more toyota parts than he know what to do with 7 bays full.

mistreatedtoys · 12-13-2008, 05:46 PM

Have you pulled the plugs to veriify fuel is being injected? You will have pressure but if the injectors are not firing all is for nothing. This happened to me after a head gasket change. The wires got pulled loose from the plug. The connector was tight but no contact was being made. Check the wires and connector coming of the silver finned box on the passenger side firewall. It will be an insulated 2 wire white with yellow connectors.

annoyingrob · 12-13-2008, 10:08 PM

New cap, rotor, plugs, and wires?

abecedarian · 12-13-2008, 10:30 PM

I'm wondering... how do you check the timing if the engine won't start?

abecedarian · 12-13-2008, 10:32 PM

20r/22r/22re/22rte
crank at 0
cam at 0: intake and exhaust valves loose on #1 cylinder
distributor removed, rotor at 12 oclock, insert, should rotate CCW to about 10 oclock.

874runnersr5 · 12-13-2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abecedarian

I'm wondering... how do you check the timing if the engine won't start?

x2.....

12-12-2008, 12:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
annoyingrob Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 649	Is the distributor 180* out? __________________ 86 SR5 Turbo pickup Fiberglass bed, Fiberglass Fenders. 91 1.5JZ GT40 Supra. 77 Celica Liftback. (WTB: 20R Carb!)

12-12-2008, 12:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
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89whitetoyota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio - Amelia is the exact place. There is no one else on this site from where I am. Seems like everyone is from Cali or Washington. I guess I need to move. Posts: 557	If its isnt even turning over check 1. starter is actually in the hole, i had mine fall out on the way home from work last week, and wire brush the contacts and terminal 2. check fuses takes about 4 minutes to check all of them 3. make sure all of your grounds are hooked up (valve cover, chasis to engine coming of starter wire) If it is rotating but not catching check 1. if it cranks all slow or backfires out of the air box, turn your dist around 2. pull the 19mm bolt going to the fuel rail, you will need a new crush washer, and see if you have a steady stream of fuel with the key turned to acc. dont try to start but see if you have constant flow (fill a beer can in a minute or so), if this is weak it could be sending unit, pump or pressure reg. 3. make sure all of your plug wires are on the correct spot, plug wire 1 on the number 1 location on the cap. 4. Spray some brake cleaner in the throttle body while attempting to start, and see what that does. __________________ John Stranko 89 Toyota Pickup - 22R-E AutoZone Fog Lights Blue Interior w/ brown dash American Racing 767's - 31x10.5 YOKO's Thats all the mods I got I think St. Patties Day is unAmerican. I technically celebrate St. Patties every night of the year, I dont need a holiday to justify it. Last edited by 89whitetoyota; 12-13-2008 at 10:47 AM.

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annoyingrob Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 649	New cap, rotor, plugs, and wires? __________________ 86 SR5 Turbo pickup Fiberglass bed, Fiberglass Fenders. 91 1.5JZ GT40 Supra. 77 Celica Liftback. (WTB: 20R Carb!)

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12-12-2008, 12:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
86turbotoy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8	it wont even attept to fire i have checked the timming a couple times. I cant put my finger on what is wrong its driving me crazy.

12-12-2008, 01:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
86turbotoy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8	anyone got any other ideas

12-12-2008, 04:33 PM	#7 (permalink)
regularjoe Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 108	would you have spark even if it was 180 out? I dont know alot about the subject.

12-13-2008, 10:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
86turbotoy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8	I belive it would have spark if it was 180 out. i have spark but it is very faint i think it might be the ignighter anyone know how to check if its good.

12-13-2008, 11:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
86turbotoy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8	the moter turns over fine all my grounds are hooked up im getting fuel to my cold start injecter. its just like theres not alot of spark

12-13-2008, 12:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
86turbotoy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8	ya i have wait till monday my friend has more toyota parts than he know what to do with 7 bays full.

12-13-2008, 05:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
mistreatedtoys Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 40	Have you pulled the plugs to veriify fuel is being injected? You will have pressure but if the injectors are not firing all is for nothing. This happened to me after a head gasket change. The wires got pulled loose from the plug. The connector was tight but no contact was being made. Check the wires and connector coming of the silver finned box on the passenger side firewall. It will be an insulated 2 wire white with yellow connectors.

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