repairing rust

darkangel · 08-18-2008, 07:33 AM

Ok, I need some help. I have a lot of rust on the driver side, and I really need to know if there is a way to take care of it.

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algranger · 08-18-2008, 07:34 AM

what kind of rust?

algranger · 08-18-2008, 07:35 AM

sorry if that sounded like a smart ass reply i meant is it like minor surface rust or big rust holes

pwd · 08-18-2008, 07:37 AM

Pictures would be great for a diagnosis!

darkangel · 08-18-2008, 08:10 AM

No your ok, i cant post pictures because linux wont let me...when I figure that out I'll post some. But they are big holes, first and second layer of the underbody....it's not penetrating through the floor but it's there. im pretty sure theres more other places so I want to fix it...

ozziesironmanoffroad · 08-18-2008, 08:14 AM

eew.. rusty holes? id say cut it out, weld a new patch of metal there, grind it down so its even with the rest of the metal and repaint. im so glad i dont have to deal with rust... i guess i lucked out on that one

ocdropzone · 08-18-2008, 08:23 AM

will linux let you upload pictures to a hosting service like photobucket.com? If so use the [img] code ..

my floor is looking like this:

cut out a floor panel at the junkyard, just need to get off my butt and fix it..

cutting and welding is probably the best way to do it....

darkangel · 08-18-2008, 08:40 AM

man....I dont think that its that bad....but i know that there some rust that I dont want to get worse...I figured I would probably just go and get some sheet metal....cut some spots out and weld it on in. and cover the underbody with por15 or some type of undercoat.

ocdropzone · 08-18-2008, 09:38 AM

yeah, that is my driver's side...passenger side looks like it just came out of the factory....bought it with a leaky windshield and 3 layers of carpeting...

I think you plan will work. I haven't used POR-15 yet but seems like a ton of people here and other forums swear by the stuff....i think Slacker (another trekker owner) must own stock in the company, he is doing most of his running gear/frame with it

darkangel · 08-18-2008, 10:02 AM

Yeah, por 15 is great stuff. I have to have this truck in good shape because I will using this truck to go back and forth to school, work, and emergency search and rescue responses I cant have a truck thats in piss poor shape. I have other problems and questions with about this truck, but ppl dont seem to answer my threads...But when its not raining, I will get up under the truck and access the damage, and then i'll buy me MIG and some sheet metal and go to work. Because the bed has some small holes also....

how do you fix small rust bulges on fenders and stuff...? Grind it out, and what else...?

ozziesironmanoffroad · 08-18-2008, 10:36 AM

get some pics of the cancer on the fenders.. depending on how bad it is might just be easier to get a new fender

lil_mule · 08-19-2008, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocdropzone

will linux let you upload pictures to a hosting service like photobucket.com? If so use the [img] code ..

my floor is looking like this:

cut out a floor panel at the junkyard, just need to get off my butt and fix it..

cutting and welding is probably the best way to do it....

hate to hijack, but that mounting point in your picture is rotted out on my truck how the hell do you fix that....I mean the body mount is rusted

darkangel · 08-19-2008, 08:44 PM

No man....you did not hijack....I believe that you could take a small piece of steel, and if the sourounding area is good....cut out that area weld the steel plate too the good metal, reinforce, and bolt it up....I believe that will work...that's what Im going to do.

Crtzlow · 08-20-2008, 04:56 AM

This product is pretty good as far as rust is concerned. I have read in other forums about people using it to fill in pin holes in body panels (after prep work of course) and then finishing them. You can take the silver product they make and seal windshields and gas tanks with it.

http://www.masterseriesct.com/home.html

Crtzlow

darkangel · 09-16-2008, 05:31 PM

Ok here's some pics of the little rust that I have. Tell me what you guys think.

http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/p...Picture066.jpg
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/p...Picture067.jpg

slacker · 09-16-2008, 05:40 PM

unfortunatly .. thats not a "little bit of rust" .. if you start poking at it .. you'll end up with much more ..

darkangel · 09-16-2008, 05:59 PM

Ok...what do I do....? Start hack'n away..

slisdexia · 09-16-2008, 06:09 PM

ooo, thats worse than the rust in my truck. when you cut out the bad stuff, make sure you cut all the way to clean metal otherwise the cancer will come back with a vengence and you'll be pissed

darkangel · 09-16-2008, 06:57 PM

Man....So its that bad....?

Rusker · 09-21-2008, 06:32 PM

I'd like to see how your floors turned out ocdropzone. I have similar rust and that looks like the best way to take care of it.

Any good threads on someone tackling this same problem?

Sked · 09-22-2008, 04:32 AM

My cab mounts by your feet on both sides looked like ocdropzones there so i had to cut the metal out and weld in new.

I used a spare hood as metal for the new floor but if i did it again i would use a thicker gauge, after 3 years the floor mounts are starting to crack. I can get pics if you want em

Rusker · 09-22-2008, 11:14 AM

I'd like to see some pics Sked.

Can you buy new mounts? Mine look like they may need to be cut out.

08-18-2008, 07:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
algranger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Here in the PNW Posts: 3,264	what kind of rust? __________________ . . . I said lie, for me lying under a process tree . . . .

08-18-2008, 07:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
algranger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Here in the PNW Posts: 3,264	sorry if that sounded like a smart ass reply i meant is it like minor surface rust or big rust holes __________________ . . . I said lie, for me lying under a process tree . . . .

08-18-2008, 07:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
pwd Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: North Bay, Ontario Posts: 233	Pictures would be great for a diagnosis! __________________ 1995 4x4 ext. cab Truck 3.0L 5-speed Bone stock, with Wab-Fab Shackles Rear Wide 6" $100 Acquired in May 07 , spent ~ $4400 on repairs so far: Paint job, parking brake cable, rad re-core, new tire winch, brake lines, fuel line, Bremo rotors, Toyota pads, new calipers (in this order), all new exhaust excluding headers 1992 4Runner 4x4 3.0L Auto Project Truck... the deeper money pit. Update Nov. 19: Fully road worthy. New Tires Coming Soon.

08-18-2008, 08:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,676	eew.. rusty holes? id say cut it out, weld a new patch of metal there, grind it down so its even with the rest of the metal and repaint. im so glad i dont have to deal with rust... i guess i lucked out on that one __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

08-18-2008, 08:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,711	will linux let you upload pictures to a hosting service like photobucket.com? If so use the [img] code .. my floor is looking like this: cut out a floor panel at the junkyard, just need to get off my butt and fix it.. cutting and welding is probably the best way to do it.... __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

08-18-2008, 08:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
darkangel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 32	No your ok, i cant post pictures because linux wont let me...when I figure that out I'll post some. But they are big holes, first and second layer of the underbody....it's not penetrating through the floor but it's there. im pretty sure theres more other places so I want to fix it...

08-18-2008, 08:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
darkangel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 32	man....I dont think that its that bad....but i know that there some rust that I dont want to get worse...I figured I would probably just go and get some sheet metal....cut some spots out and weld it on in. and cover the underbody with por15 or some type of undercoat.

08-18-2008, 09:38 AM	#9 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,711	yeah, that is my driver's side...passenger side looks like it just came out of the factory....bought it with a leaky windshield and 3 layers of carpeting... I think you plan will work. I haven't used POR-15 yet but seems like a ton of people here and other forums swear by the stuff....i think Slacker (another trekker owner) must own stock in the company, he is doing most of his running gear/frame with it __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

08-18-2008, 10:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
darkangel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 32	Yeah, por 15 is great stuff. I have to have this truck in good shape because I will using this truck to go back and forth to school, work, and emergency search and rescue responses I cant have a truck thats in piss poor shape. I have other problems and questions with about this truck, but ppl dont seem to answer my threads...But when its not raining, I will get up under the truck and access the damage, and then i'll buy me MIG and some sheet metal and go to work. Because the bed has some small holes also.... how do you fix small rust bulges on fenders and stuff...? Grind it out, and what else...?

08-18-2008, 10:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,676	get some pics of the cancer on the fenders.. depending on how bad it is might just be easier to get a new fender __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

08-19-2008, 08:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
darkangel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 32	No man....you did not hijack....I believe that you could take a small piece of steel, and if the sourounding area is good....cut out that area weld the steel plate too the good metal, reinforce, and bolt it up....I believe that will work...that's what Im going to do.

08-20-2008, 04:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
Crtzlow Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southwest, MS Posts: 30	This product is pretty good as far as rust is concerned. I have read in other forums about people using it to fill in pin holes in body panels (after prep work of course) and then finishing them. You can take the silver product they make and seal windshields and gas tanks with it. http://www.masterseriesct.com/home.html Crtzlow __________________ Blessed is he who expects nothing for he shall not be disappointed. '79 4x4, 22R w/5 speed, 33" Buckshot Mudders

09-16-2008, 05:31 PM	#15 (permalink)
darkangel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 32	Got Some Pic Of The Cancer Ok here's some pics of the little rust that I have. Tell me what you guys think. http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/p...Picture066.jpg http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/p...Picture067.jpg

09-16-2008, 05:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
slacker Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Canada Posts: 2,114	unfortunatly .. thats not a "little bit of rust" .. if you start poking at it .. you'll end up with much more .. __________________ 86 4x4 , fiberglass bed , 1/2 doors , hood ... more to come . 84 2WD "hotrod" Intercooled 7MGTE 83 Trekker SR5 CURRENT BUILD My home page MY PAGE 2WD fourm I frequent NEW Trekker forum

09-16-2008, 05:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
darkangel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 32	Ok...what do I do....? Start hack'n away..

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09-16-2008, 06:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
slisdexia Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 380	ooo, thats worse than the rust in my truck. when you cut out the bad stuff, make sure you cut all the way to clean metal otherwise the cancer will come back with a vengence and you'll be pissed __________________ I blame the automatic transmission for the wussification of America 1983 Toyota Pickup. 22r, 5 spd, 4x4, totally sweet chrome steelies and 31x1050 mud kings, and now an Aussie Locker.

09-16-2008, 06:57 PM	#19 (permalink)
darkangel Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 32	Man....So its that bad....?

09-21-2008, 06:32 PM	#20 (permalink)
Rusker Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 27	I'd like to see how your floors turned out ocdropzone. I have similar rust and that looks like the best way to take care of it. Any good threads on someone tackling this same problem?

09-22-2008, 04:32 AM	#21 (permalink)
Sked Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Prince George, BC Posts: 240	My cab mounts by your feet on both sides looked like ocdropzones there so i had to cut the metal out and weld in new. I used a spare hood as metal for the new floor but if i did it again i would use a thicker gauge, after 3 years the floor mounts are starting to crack. I can get pics if you want em __________________ 81 shortbed 4" Lift, 4.37 w/ Lockright Rear, Bilstein 5150's, Custom bumpers w/Ramsey8000 and flatbed 20r bored .060 w/ wiseco 9.9:1 forged pistons, Weber 38 outlaw 260 Comp Cam .440lift ,Crane Springs, 22r Valves, Pacesetter Header with a Flowmaster 40

09-22-2008, 11:14 AM	#22 (permalink)
Rusker Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 27	I'd like to see some pics Sked. Can you buy new mounts? Mine look like they may need to be cut out.

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