I did it now, linux mandrake install and screwup
#1
I did it now, linux mandrake install and screwup
Well, i have been wanting to give linux a go since the last failure back in '98 or so.
I thought I could install it on an empty drive and for the time being doing a duel boot thing. Well it seems I ruined the bootsector of windows some how and can not get windows to boot, i tried repairing and installing windows on another harddrive but my disk are too scratched or something...... In linux i can see that NFTS partitions still exsist and I hope a good portion of my 400gigs of crap is still there. Untill I can get a new windows install cd i am getting a crash corse in mandrake.. and I could use alot of help.
I have tried installing several programs like AIM and it says it needs to install something "to satisfy dependencies" and wants me to put in the installation cd - however it opens and looks for it in my cd-rw drive and the disk is a DVD anc can only be read by my dvd burner drive and I can not make the installer thing look anywhere else.
I also choose GNOME but there are others installed how can I try them out?
Is there anyway to veiw drives or file information on windows disk?
ohhh man what a different world.,
I changed the resolution 1280x1024 but it looks very 800x800 is that normal? pictures look like the right res, but the app windows and webpage stuff doesnt.
If i can get half those to happen it would be a good start.
thanks
edit: Oh yeah I tried to install firefox and it worked fine but it I dont know how to open it now that I have closed it
I thought I could install it on an empty drive and for the time being doing a duel boot thing. Well it seems I ruined the bootsector of windows some how and can not get windows to boot, i tried repairing and installing windows on another harddrive but my disk are too scratched or something...... In linux i can see that NFTS partitions still exsist and I hope a good portion of my 400gigs of crap is still there. Untill I can get a new windows install cd i am getting a crash corse in mandrake.. and I could use alot of help.
I have tried installing several programs like AIM and it says it needs to install something "to satisfy dependencies" and wants me to put in the installation cd - however it opens and looks for it in my cd-rw drive and the disk is a DVD anc can only be read by my dvd burner drive and I can not make the installer thing look anywhere else.
I also choose GNOME but there are others installed how can I try them out?
Is there anyway to veiw drives or file information on windows disk?
ohhh man what a different world.,
I changed the resolution 1280x1024 but it looks very 800x800 is that normal? pictures look like the right res, but the app windows and webpage stuff doesnt.
If i can get half those to happen it would be a good start.
thanks
edit: Oh yeah I tried to install firefox and it worked fine but it I dont know how to open it now that I have closed it
Last edited by phorunninduke; Mar 26, 2005 at 07:33 PM.
#2
If you can tell me what the dependencies that you lack are I can help you get the AIM-like program running. What program is it?
You can mount your NTFS partition. Open a GNOME terminal and type SU, enter your root password. You may want to make sure your kernel supports NTFS, type 'cat /proc/filesystems' and hopefully NTFS will be there somewhere.
Create a directory to mount the NTFS partition, for example: 'mkdir /mnt/win'.
Type fdisk -l to see which partition is the NTFS partition, (/dev/hda1 or something like that).
To mount it (if it were /dev/hda1) type 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win -t ntfs'.
You likely have KDE installed as well as GNOME, from the CLI when it first boots up (or if you shut down gnome)you might try 'startx kde', I'm not sure if that will work, depending how it's setup. I haven't seen the more recent releases of Mandrake.
You can mount your NTFS partition. Open a GNOME terminal and type SU, enter your root password. You may want to make sure your kernel supports NTFS, type 'cat /proc/filesystems' and hopefully NTFS will be there somewhere.
Create a directory to mount the NTFS partition, for example: 'mkdir /mnt/win'.
Type fdisk -l to see which partition is the NTFS partition, (/dev/hda1 or something like that).
To mount it (if it were /dev/hda1) type 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win -t ntfs'.
You likely have KDE installed as well as GNOME, from the CLI when it first boots up (or if you shut down gnome)you might try 'startx kde', I'm not sure if that will work, depending how it's setup. I haven't seen the more recent releases of Mandrake.
Last edited by az4x4runner; Mar 26, 2005 at 08:03 PM.
#3
Originally Posted by az4x4runner
If you can tell me what the dependencies that you lack are I can help you get the AIM-like program running. What program is it?
You can mount your NTFS partition. Open a GNOME terminal and type SU, enter your root password. You may want to make sure your kernel supports NTFS, type 'cat /proc/filesystems' and hopefully NTFS will be there somewhere.
Create a directory to mount the NTFS partition, for example: 'mkdir /mnt/win'.
Type fdisk -l to see which partition is the NTFS partition, (/dev/hda1 or something like that).
To mount it (if it were /dev/hda1) type 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win -t ntfs'.
You likely have KDE installed as well as GNOME, from the CLI when it first boots up (or if you shut down gnome)you might try 'startx kde', I'm not sure if that will work, depending how it's setup. I haven't seen the more recent releases of Mandrake.
You can mount your NTFS partition. Open a GNOME terminal and type SU, enter your root password. You may want to make sure your kernel supports NTFS, type 'cat /proc/filesystems' and hopefully NTFS will be there somewhere.
Create a directory to mount the NTFS partition, for example: 'mkdir /mnt/win'.
Type fdisk -l to see which partition is the NTFS partition, (/dev/hda1 or something like that).
To mount it (if it were /dev/hda1) type 'mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/win -t ntfs'.
You likely have KDE installed as well as GNOME, from the CLI when it first boots up (or if you shut down gnome)you might try 'startx kde', I'm not sure if that will work, depending how it's setup. I haven't seen the more recent releases of Mandrake.
it says the same thing for all the other commands
the program is called gaim and is some sort of universal aol instant messenger that i found on a linux forum looking why the AIM installer said something about "unsatisfied libstdc++libc6.1-1.so.2) ---
anyway the 2 packages that need to be installed for gaim are
gaim-1.2.0-0mdk10.0.i586 and
libgtkspell0-2.0.5-2mdk.i586
#4
Oh another thing. Is your bootloader LILO?
If so, su root and edit /etc/lilo.conf (try mcedit /etc/lilo.conf or gedit /etc/lilo.conf).
Add an entry like this (still assuming your windows partition is /dev/hda1):
other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
Save, close the editor, type '/sbin/lilo'. next time you reboot Windows should be in the lilo boot menu.
If so, su root and edit /etc/lilo.conf (try mcedit /etc/lilo.conf or gedit /etc/lilo.conf).
Add an entry like this (still assuming your windows partition is /dev/hda1):
other=/dev/hda1
label=windows
Save, close the editor, type '/sbin/lilo'. next time you reboot Windows should be in the lilo boot menu.
#5
Sorry about that, su must be lowercase.
GAIM is a good program, I'd go here http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php and download the RPMS (easier to install because they are precompiled. Type 'rpm -ivh packagename.i586.rpm'.
libgtkspell can be found here:
ftp://194.199.20.114/linux/Mandrake/...-2mdk.i586.rpm
If that asks for libaspell..:
ftp://194.199.20.114/linux/Mandrake/...-3mdk.i586.rpm
GAIM is a good program, I'd go here http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php and download the RPMS (easier to install because they are precompiled. Type 'rpm -ivh packagename.i586.rpm'.
libgtkspell can be found here:
ftp://194.199.20.114/linux/Mandrake/...-2mdk.i586.rpm
If that asks for libaspell..:
ftp://194.199.20.114/linux/Mandrake/...-3mdk.i586.rpm
Last edited by az4x4runner; Mar 26, 2005 at 08:31 PM.
#6
allright i am rolling now, at least with messenger.
If you are going to be on for a while my screen name is stringbassfive I could use the help time to time - thank a bunch for what youve done so far.
edit .
i am using lilo but couldnt get your thing to work,
also figured out how to log into KDE, but it appears that downloads and programs do not cross over ? maybe i can not find em.
thanks again
If you are going to be on for a while my screen name is stringbassfive I could use the help time to time - thank a bunch for what youve done so far.
edit .
i am using lilo but couldnt get your thing to work,
also figured out how to log into KDE, but it appears that downloads and programs do not cross over ? maybe i can not find em.
thanks again
Last edited by phorunninduke; Mar 26, 2005 at 08:43 PM.
#7
I haven't used AIM in a long time, but I will look ya up. Most likely tomorrow though, I may have to leave the house any minute now..
Glad I was able to help in some way. I haven't played with Linux for a while.. I've forgotten some. I'll look into the lilo thing more for you later, if you need antyhing else let me know, it's helping me remember at least.
Glad I was able to help in some way. I haven't played with Linux for a while.. I've forgotten some. I'll look into the lilo thing more for you later, if you need antyhing else let me know, it's helping me remember at least.
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#8
Ok, just got back home..
Try this in your /etc/lilo.conf :
other=/dev/whatever-the-ntfs-partition is
label=Windows
image=/boot/vmlinuz (my be just /vmlinuz, see what the others say)
table=/dev/hda (if ntfs part. was hda1,2,3 etc.)
Run /sbin/lilo as root, hopefully you will be good to go. Let me know.
Now, off to bed...
Try this in your /etc/lilo.conf :
other=/dev/whatever-the-ntfs-partition is
label=Windows
image=/boot/vmlinuz (my be just /vmlinuz, see what the others say)
table=/dev/hda (if ntfs part. was hda1,2,3 etc.)
Run /sbin/lilo as root, hopefully you will be good to go. Let me know.
Now, off to bed...
Last edited by az4x4runner; Mar 27, 2005 at 02:06 AM.
#14
"screwup" in the title used to say something else...relative to this in the rules...
"(3) Foul language - this also includes trying to get around the word censor using words to replace the "F" word.
We do let a few words slip by that you will hear on Primetime TV, but some words such as the "F" word or fooling the censor with alternate like words will not be tolerated."
"(3) Foul language - this also includes trying to get around the word censor using words to replace the "F" word.
We do let a few words slip by that you will hear on Primetime TV, but some words such as the "F" word or fooling the censor with alternate like words will not be tolerated."
#15
Thanks for the help az, i am pretty much back in buisness windows is working allong with mandrake - i have to pick witch hard drive to boot in bios as lilo no longer shows a windows option. That is okay for now, i am just relieved to have all my files safe and sound now.
I typed the letter F and used a dash follwed by the past-tence verb ending, but I would argue that it was not so much to get around a word censor as a unique verbage all on its own. It really isnt a big deal and I do not mind playing by the rules, and being told when I happen to break the. However, making a deal out of it is very irritating and stupid.
One, Wabbit post pointing it out - not bad I didn't realise there was a crack down. He is just trying to be helpful and keep the forum clean.
However; Two Wabbit tattle tales to a mod as well - acceptible if i refused to change after his post or if it was a huge offence and needed to be romoved asap. IMO one or the other.
Three Tdiddy not only fixes it, he post that he did and thanks Wabbit for telling. It is certainly within he duity as a mod to fix it, even pm to say so, but there was no need to make multiple post in my thread about it. Why did he have to post about it? Fix it and be done - these issues should be private when they happen so PM if you wana warn me or whatever.
My eye roll image was in responce to the deal made about it, the snide comment Tdiddy made with an underlying threat not to mock his authority or be banned is the kind of stuff that starts Mod vs user flame wars and pisses people off.
I hang out here for the overwhelmingly good people and help, if I wana be hassled by power tripped mods I can think of other forums to visit. "the smartest thing I said all day? WT ( edit can not type the letter between E and G in the alphabet ) is that supposed to mean anyway?
I typed the letter F and used a dash follwed by the past-tence verb ending, but I would argue that it was not so much to get around a word censor as a unique verbage all on its own. It really isnt a big deal and I do not mind playing by the rules, and being told when I happen to break the. However, making a deal out of it is very irritating and stupid.
One, Wabbit post pointing it out - not bad I didn't realise there was a crack down. He is just trying to be helpful and keep the forum clean.
However; Two Wabbit tattle tales to a mod as well - acceptible if i refused to change after his post or if it was a huge offence and needed to be romoved asap. IMO one or the other.
Three Tdiddy not only fixes it, he post that he did and thanks Wabbit for telling. It is certainly within he duity as a mod to fix it, even pm to say so, but there was no need to make multiple post in my thread about it. Why did he have to post about it? Fix it and be done - these issues should be private when they happen so PM if you wana warn me or whatever.
My eye roll image was in responce to the deal made about it, the snide comment Tdiddy made with an underlying threat not to mock his authority or be banned is the kind of stuff that starts Mod vs user flame wars and pisses people off.
I hang out here for the overwhelmingly good people and help, if I wana be hassled by power tripped mods I can think of other forums to visit. "the smartest thing I said all day? WT ( edit can not type the letter between E and G in the alphabet ) is that supposed to mean anyway?
#18
Get over yourself. Brian did absolutely nothing wrong. He reported a thread that he thought was in violation of the rules, something we try to encourage more of. Unless you've been under a rock the last week, you'd know that there has been a surge in the membership asking for a crackdown on language and rule enforcement. I posted so that not only Brian but anyone else that reads the thread would know that it was noticed and corrected.
As far as mocking authority, tough cookies. Mocking anyone, member or mod is considered flaming and grounds for removal. I couldn't tell if your "rolleyes" was directed at me, Brian, or both. It really doesn't matter, no matter your intent it wasn't called for. What you should have done was just apologize and move on.
As far as mocking authority, tough cookies. Mocking anyone, member or mod is considered flaming and grounds for removal. I couldn't tell if your "rolleyes" was directed at me, Brian, or both. It really doesn't matter, no matter your intent it wasn't called for. What you should have done was just apologize and move on.
#19
No, moving on is what YOU should have done. If the rolleye thing is never called for regardless of intent why the heck is it in the smiley list? If you would have read my previous post carefully enough each individiual action was reasonable but all together is a bit anoying. As far as being under a rock, not quite but there is this thing called a life which I have and some need to get. It keeps me from being upto date on everything everywhere time to time and even on yotatech from reading every single post. Like I said I don't have a probablem with a mod taking care of buiness, but you post read like you wanted a cookie from wabbit for doing your job. It is like getting pulled over for speeding a few mph over and the cop harrassing you like you robbed a bank.
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