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Old Jun 17, 2023 | 07:00 AM
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86 4runner Driver Door Doesn't Stay Open (Door Check)

Hey all. Fixing up an 86 4runner 22re. My driver side door closes with the slightest breeze which is driving me crazy as I work on the interior. I've replaced the door check in other vehicles and they seem to be relatively interchangeable. Has anyone replaced the door check on their rig? The part number I found (68610-89102) isnt in production anymore. According to this website, the part is superseded by 68610-60040, but is contradicted by McGeorge Toyota. I'm thinking this is due to the differences in US vs overseas models but I'm skeptical there is a difference because it is a body part.

Has anyone replaced theirs with the new part or another part #? I've found a place that sells 68610-89102 but it is 50 bucks more than 68610-60040. I'd rather buy new than used.

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Old Jun 17, 2023 | 01:50 PM
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Don't know your price but saw this from Canada. https://www.toyotapartsdirect.ca/p/T...861089102.html


and this https://trupar.com/p/toyota-forklift...nt-68610-89102

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Old Jun 17, 2023 | 03:39 PM
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Thanks Joe! I saw those but would like to save some cash if possible.
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Old Jun 17, 2023 | 03:59 PM
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Have you tried to spread the plates apart to increase the friction?
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Old Jun 18, 2023 | 08:45 AM
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If a part number is discontinued that means TMS (Toyota USA) can't get it from TMC (Toyota of Japan. The main guys)
This also means no other country's Toyota supply chain can get, either. If that Canadian store can actually provide one (I'm guessing they can't) it's old stock, but that's a gigantic long shot.
That 60040 is interesting. It was intended for a Landcruiser so maybe pretty stiff to hold the heavier door, but could very well fit. Amayama has it at a reasonable price.
"89" in a part number was typical for !st gen trucks/4Runners. "60" was often Landcruiser. But this isn't ironclad.

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Old Jun 19, 2023 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimkola
If a part number is discontinued that means TMS (Toyota USA) can't get it from TMC (Toyota of Japan. The main guys)
This also means no other country's Toyota supply chain can get, either. If that Canadian store can actually provide one (I'm guessing they can't) it's old stock, but that's a gigantic long shot.
That 60040 is interesting. It was intended for a Landcruiser so maybe pretty stiff to hold the heavier door, but could very well fit. Amayama has it at a reasonable price.
"89" in a part number was typical for !st gen trucks/4Runners. "60" was often Landcruiser. But this isn't iron
Good to know! Sounds like you have been through the ringer trying to find parts.
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Have you tried to spread the plates apart to increase the friction?
No, I hadnt thought of that! I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
Edit: did a quick search and found this video and this link. I'll give one of them a shot and report back.


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Old Jun 19, 2023 | 10:33 AM
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I worked Toyota Parts for 10 years before moving to service, then eventually became parts and service director.
If you want a truly riveting post I can explain the difference between referred, back-ordered, discontinued, gray market(Like Amayama) etc.
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Originally Posted by Jimkola
I worked Toyota Parts for 10 years before moving to service, then eventually became parts and service director.
If you want a truly riveting post I can explain the difference between referred, back-ordered, discontinued, gray market(Like Amayama) etc.
Yes! I'd love to hear about that especially the gray market.
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Old Jun 20, 2023 | 08:34 AM
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TMC-Japan supplies(sells) parts to their subsidiaries in others countries. Toyota USA(TMS) Toyota of Canada, UAE, Australia, etc etc.
With the USA operation, TMS then sells those parts to each region. Gulf States, Los Angeles, Boston, Denver, etc etc
Those regions then sell the parts to the dealers in their area. Lotsa selling, lotsa markup before it gets to the customer.

Here is where gray market comes in. Black market is a forgery, a knock off. But gray market are genuine parts that were supplied outside the normal chain. Example. Some company in UAE has access to oem parts through the UAE distribution network. They can offer parts to a USA customer often at a fraction what the localToyota dealer charges, as the price hasn’t been stepped on 3-4 times. Toyota USA obviously hates it, but not much they can do.

Some things aren’t always a great deal, sometimes the savings are insane. Just gotta run the numbers, factoring in any taxes and shipping. The gray market price on Koyo and Naichi bearings is often vastly cheaper. Interior parts or big things, not so much.
Carmarka and Amayama are two I’ve dealt with, but I’m sure there’s more. Some sell on eBay and Amazon, but with so many fake parts being sold there I think it’s best just to go to their dedicated website.

I like Amayama for a couple of reasons. You can see parts schematics much like the ones we used bitd to get part numbers. When you build your order they give you a running total, including shipping. So if something really skews the shipping cost you can dump. Lastly, they often give options, especially with bearings. You can either select the Toyota bearing, or they'll give you the same bearing in a Naichi box, often at a much lower price. They also seem to charge true shipping costs. They don't sell cheap, then jack up S&H as many USA dealer internet sites do.
Sometimes Amayama will make it seem like they can get a discontinued part, as they have a price and let you add to cart. They can't. In a day or so they'll notify you they can't get and will contact you. Lastly, Try and get your Amayama stuff from the same location(japan or UAE). If you have parts shipped from multiple areas the freight gets pricey.

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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimkola
TMC-Japan supplies(sells) parts to their subsidiaries in others countries. Toyota USA(TMS) Toyota of Canada, UAE, Australia, etc etc.
With the USA operation, TMS then sells those parts to each region. Gulf States, Los Angeles, Boston, Denver, etc etc
Those regions then sell the parts to the dealers in their area. Lotsa selling, lotsa markup before it gets to the customer.

Here is where gray market comes in. Black market is a forgery, a knock off. But gray market are genuine parts that were supplied outside the normal chain. Example. Some company in UAE has access to oem parts through the UAE distribution network. They can offer parts to a USA customer often at a fraction what the localToyota dealer charges, as the price hasn’t been stepped on 3-4 times. Toyota USA obviously hates it, but not much they can do.

Some things aren’t always a great deal, sometimes the savings are insane. Just gotta run the numbers, factoring in any taxes and shipping. The gray market price on Koyo and Naichi bearings is often vastly cheaper. Interior parts or big things, not so much.
Carmarka and Amayama are two I’ve dealt with, but I’m sure there’s more. Some sell on eBay and Amazon, but with so many fake parts being sold there I think it’s best just to go to their dedicated website.

I like Amayama for a couple of reasons. You can see parts schematics much like the ones we used bitd to get part numbers. When you build your order they give you a running total, including shipping. So if something really skews the shipping cost you can dump. Lastly, they often give options, especially with bearings. You can either select the Toyota bearing, or they'll give you the same bearing in a Naichi box, often at a much lower price. They also seem to charge true shipping costs. They don't sell cheap, then jack up S&H as many USA dealer internet sites do.
Sometimes Amayama will make it seem like they can get a discontinued part, as they have a price and let you add to cart. They can't. In a day or so they'll notify you they can't get and will contact you. Lastly, Try and get your Amayama stuff from the same location(japan or UAE). If you have parts shipped from multiple areas the freight gets pricey.
Good stuff! Really helpful info on Amayama. I've looked at buying one part but the shipping was outrageous. I'll give it another shot!

I got around to modifying the door check. It was relatively easy. The body of the check is spot welded at opposite corners so I had to cut off them off. Bolts will hold the body together once installed.

Initially, I tried to rotate the rubber block 90° but it was too large. Instead, I inserted a 1/16" plastic shim (circled in blue below) between one side of the body and the rubber block. The results are meh but the old girl was pretty worn out. I would guess the holding capacity 40% of oem. But it doesnt close on me when I'm working inside so I'll count it as a win. I may try to insert another shim or buy a cheap check on amazon and modify it to fit.

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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimkola
TMC-Japan supplies(sells) parts to their subsidiaries in others countries. Toyota USA(TMS) Toyota of Canada, UAE, Australia, etc etc.
With the USA operation, TMS then sells those parts to each region. Gulf States, Los Angeles, Boston, Denver, etc etc
Those regions then sell the parts to the dealers in their area. Lotsa selling, lotsa markup before it gets to the customer.

Here is where gray market comes in. Black market is a forgery, a knock off. But gray market are genuine parts that were supplied outside the normal chain. Example. Some company in UAE has access to oem parts through the UAE distribution network. They can offer parts to a USA customer often at a fraction what the localToyota dealer charges, as the price hasn’t been stepped on 3-4 times. Toyota USA obviously hates it, but not much they can do.

Some things aren’t always a great deal, sometimes the savings are insane. Just gotta run the numbers, factoring in any taxes and shipping. The gray market price on Koyo and Naichi bearings is often vastly cheaper. Interior parts or big things, not so much.
Carmarka and Amayama are two I’ve dealt with, but I’m sure there’s more. Some sell on eBay and Amazon, but with so many fake parts being sold there I think it’s best just to go to their dedicated website.

I like Amayama for a couple of reasons. You can see parts schematics much like the ones we used bitd to get part numbers. When you build your order they give you a running total, including shipping. So if something really skews the shipping cost you can dump. Lastly, they often give options, especially with bearings. You can either select the Toyota bearing, or they'll give you the same bearing in a Naichi box, often at a much lower price. They also seem to charge true shipping costs. They don't sell cheap, then jack up S&H as many USA dealer internet sites do.
Sometimes Amayama will make it seem like they can get a discontinued part, as they have a price and let you add to cart. They can't. In a day or so they'll notify you they can't get and will contact you. Lastly, Try and get your Amayama stuff from the same location(japan or UAE). If you have parts shipped from multiple areas the freight gets pricey.
Wow. Great resources, thanks! Although plugging in my VIN (on both sites) I get hits for the 4-Runner not the standard 1989 Pickup that I have. There are a lot of classification numbers to wade through. How do you match the model of what you own to what's available on the site?

Thank you!
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 02:19 PM
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If you’re on Amayama or EPC-data, go to 4Runner to find your vehicle’s model number. When the 4Runner came out Toyota lumped the 2wd RN5, and the RN6 truck/4/Runner all together on the same microfilm in the parts dept.
Whats your model number?
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 04:10 PM
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I actually don't have the 4-Runner, I have a standard 1989 Pickup, but 4-Runner is what comes up when I search the VIN number.
The ID plate on the door frame says "TRUCK RN80L-TRSDEA" but I've never run into anything that gives it a model name/number.
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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 04:49 PM
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Here's a link to amayama. EPC-data will have pretty much the same procedure
toyota 4runner
look for RN80L and click on that.
you'll find your model about half way down on the list.
I know they call it a 4Runner in the heading, just ignore it. It's just the way Toyota grouped things back then.

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Old Jul 31, 2023 | 08:56 PM
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Thanks so much! Yes, the way they categorized them all under 4-Runners was throwing me off!
I'll see what I can hunt down now...

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