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Cv axles too short after manual-hub conversion on 96 4runner

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Old Mar 10, 2021 | 07:31 PM
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Cv axles too short after manual-hub conversion on 96 4runner

I just completed converting my 96 4runner from ADD to manual hubs. Got new hubs, lockers and re-manufactured cv's from O'reilly's. Everything seams good except the cvs are too short. Passenger side protrudes maybe half and inch from the hub and driver side is flush with the hub. I can't get the snap wring on. I have no droop on the driver side because the axle is bound up. Looking at the old ones, the passenger is clearly longer then the driver. I called o'reilly's and they say there is only one axle length for the first gen taco with manual hubs. Does anyone who has done this conversion have any light to shed on the matter.

One is longer then the other.
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Old Mar 11, 2021 | 04:41 AM
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They shouldn't have threaded ends like the add version would, I'm assuming someone gave you the wrong part. The longer cv looks pulled apart on the diff side.



PS. Ignore the wheel adapter.

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Old Mar 11, 2021 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by habanero
They shouldn't have threaded ends like the add version would, I'm assuming someone gave you the wrong part. The longer cv looks pulled apart on the diff side.



PS. Ignore the wheel adapter.
I have the axles with splined ends on them, for a tacoma.
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Old Mar 11, 2021 | 05:54 AM
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You have the wrong axles. The axles are different between manual hubs and automatic hubs.

ADD axles are:
24 7/32" in length, compressed with a 27 spline outer and 30 spline inner.

Manual axles are:
24 1/8" in length compressed with a 27 spline outer and 26 spline inner

I also think there's a ABS factor to figure in there, as well but when I helped my brother @Mk_98 with his swap, we did it on a 98 Tacoma and he didn't have ABS.

I hope this information helps.
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Old Mar 11, 2021 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MaK92-4RnR
You have the wrong axles. The axles are different between manual hubs and automatic hubs.

ADD axles are:
24 7/32" in length, compressed with a 27 spline outer and 30 spline inner.

Manual axles are:
24 1/8" in length compressed with a 27 spline outer and 26 spline inner

I also think there's a ABS factor to figure in there, as well but when I helped my brother @Mk_98 with his swap, we did it on a 98 Tacoma and he didn't have ABS.

I hope this information helps.
Yeah the pictured ones are the old axles. I have new splined tacoma axles.
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Old Mar 11, 2021 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by chopzillla99
Yeah the pictured ones are the old axles. I have new splined tacoma axles.
You're sure? Count the splines and measure them. Regardless, they should work unless the wrong product was sold to you.
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Old Mar 11, 2021 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chopzillla99
I have the axles with splined ends on them, for a tacoma.
Ah, I got you. I think. Maybe...
The axles pictured are out of your 96 w/add and you're trying to show there's a length difference between them?
The threaded ends make more sense if that's the case but one of the axles in the picture is definitely pulled apart on the inboard side.
The 96 uses the same part number same length on both sides. The Taco cvs are likewise.
Are you sure you ended up with the correct year/model for parts?

I have a 96 4Runner that I converted to manual hubs some years ago, can confirm cvs to be the same for both sides for either application.

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Old Mar 11, 2021 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MaK92-4RnR
You have the wrong axles. The axles are different between manual hubs and automatic hubs.

ADD axles are:
24 7/32" in length, compressed with a 27 spline outer and 30 spline inner.

Manual axles are:
24 1/8" in length compressed with a 27 spline outer and 26 spline inner

I also think there's a ABS factor to figure in there, as well but when I helped my brother @Mk_98 with his swap, we did it on a 98 Tacoma and he didn't have ABS.

I hope this information helps.
Nice info.
ABS.
I originally ran the non-abs taco spindles, unplugged the front sensors and removed them, removed the bulb for the abs light in the dash, and added a taco speed sender to the transfer case wired to the speedometer because the 4runner relies on the abs signal for the speedo and the remaining rear sensors weren't cutting it- I'd lose the speedo on any bump and it wouldn't come back again until I dropped below 10mph.

Now I have my abs-equipped 4runner spindles with the required parts for the Tacoma manual hubs...bearing bits and abs ring pressed in. It worked either way, but you don't have to add the taco speed sender if you keep abs.

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Old Mar 15, 2021 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by habanero
Ah, I got you. I think. Maybe...
The axles pictured are out of your 96 w/add and you're trying to show there's a length difference between them?
The threaded ends make more sense if that's the case but one of the axles in the picture is definitely pulled apart on the inboard side.
The 96 uses the same part number same length on both sides. The Taco cvs are likewise.
Are you sure you ended up with the correct year/model for parts?

I have a 96 4Runner that I converted to manual hubs some years ago, can confirm cvs to be the same for both sides for either application.
Issue resolved. I was trying to put the snap ring in the wrong spot and not pulling the shaft all the way through the hub. Oops!
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Old Mar 15, 2021 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chopzillla99
Issue resolved. I was trying to put the snap ring in the wrong spot and not pulling the shaft all the way through the hub. Oops!
Thanks for updating, maybe it'll help someone else down the road. Glad you got it figured!
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