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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 02:15 AM
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1988 2wd Xtracab 31s on stock suspension

Just purchased a 1988 Toyota Pickup 2wd Xtra Cab

i have a Ford ranger with 15” rims an cooper discoverer STT pros 31s

if i jack torsion bars to the max will they fit?
how would the rear do?

All stock suspensions No mods.

just a simple Yes or No. Can I Fit 31s on My 1988 2wd toyota pickup without a lift?



Lets get this understood. I don’t give two ˟˟˟˟s about your opinions on lifting 2wd, the cost comparison to buying a 4wd and why “YOU” wouldn’t do it. So all you “Im Unhappy with your my life let me judge somebody else’s” MFs Kill yourself. I know about gearing and ratios so put a sock in it. Just looking for a simple answer which nobody ever gets on here.
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 06:50 AM
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It might fit sitting still but it's going to rub alot with the wheels turned.
I had 235/75s which is like a 29" tire on my 94 2wd and it rubbed on the inner wheel wells/firewall pretty bad going over bumps and when turning corners. That was also with the plastic liner removed and the pinch weld flattened.
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Lawrence Bullock
Lets get this understood. I don’t give two ˟˟˟˟s about your opinions on lifting 2wd, the cost comparison to buying a 4wd and why “YOU” wouldn’t do it. So all you “Im Unhappy with your my life let me judge somebody else’s” MFs Kill yourself. I know about gearing and ratios so put a sock in it. Just looking for a simple answer which nobody ever gets on here.
Woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

Simple Answer: No

I have never tried, but I am sure you are going to need a decent sized lift to fit 31" tires on a stock 2 Wheel Drive Truck, and/or do some serious fender chopping to get them to fit.

My 195/75/R14 Tires do a pretty good job of filling the available space, so going up several inches to 31" tires are going to require quite a bit more room.


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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 12:09 PM
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You can use this site to get a visual on tire sizes. There is a big difference in stock size and what you have. https://tiresize.com/comparison/
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 01:55 PM
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Thank you all. I just didnt want to hear the “why would you do that?” I appreciate the simplicity. Ill get a lift kit and throw them on 👌🏾😈
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 03:16 PM
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No one makes a simple lift kit for those trucks anymore. It's going to have to be a combination of things like cranked up torsion bars and ball joint spacers and a body lift or if you are lucky and can find them, a used set of fabtec lift spindles and upper control arms. For the rear, you'll need either longer lift shackles or add a leaf or different springs. You've got a bit of an uphill battle coming your way
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 04:51 PM
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No one makes a simple lift kit for those trucks anymore. It's going to have to be a combination of things like cranked up torsion bars and ball joint spacers and a body lift or if you are lucky and can find them, a used set of fabtec lift spindles and upper control arms. For the rear, you'll need either longer lift shackles or add a leaf or different springs. You've got a bit of an uphill battle coming your way

why an uphill battle? Seems pretty straight forward to me. Purchase and install..?? Or am i missing something. An not to be a smartass im pretty mechanically savvy
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Old Jan 21, 2020 | 09:24 PM
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with Tbars cranked, balljoint spacers and add a leaf or something in the rear do i necessarily need the body lift?
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 06:52 AM
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For my 29" tires not to rub at all, I had to run a body lift. I did a 2" but maybe could have gotten away with a 1".
The uphill battle is finding a used set of fabtec spindles and controll arms to do a correct lift. They haven't been made in like 15+ years.
You'll also want to get a set of low profile bump stops for the upper control arms. They will allow the arms to push down a little more over the taller stock ones.
Just be prepared for the ride to suck balls. With the torsions cranked up even with ball joint spacers, the ride will be like an empty 1 ton full size truck.
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawrence Bullock
...An not to be a smartass im pretty mechanically savvy

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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 08:19 AM
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For my 29" tires not to rub at all, I had to run a body lift. I did a 2" but maybe could have gotten away with a 1".
The uphill battle is finding a used set of fabtec spindles and controll arms to do a correct lift. They haven't been made in like 15+ years.
You'll also want to get a set of low profile bump stops for the upper control arms. They will allow the arms to push down a little more over the taller stock ones.
Just be prepared for the ride to suck balls. With the torsions cranked up even with ball joint spacers, the ride will be like an empty 1 ton full size truck.



would these work? No Spindles Though..

yea ive been doing some digging since I've had the truck and FabTech is old like rotary engines 😂. Im not easily Deterred though an id love to have my truck on 31s.

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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 01:29 PM
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Wou

would these shackLes work? Says aluminum
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 01:33 PM
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Or these?
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 04:01 PM
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If that fabtec kit is actually available, I'd go for it. The thing about that kit is that the lift still comes from the torsion bars being cranked up but the arms help with better ball joint angles and wheel alignment.
The add a leafs I used, replaced the overload springs so they gave me lift but I lost alot of load capacity. Not sure if those ones are the same.
The shackles I used were from downey offroad, who's been put of business for a long time. Not sure about those ones. And with the add a leafs, you might not need the shackles.
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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 05:14 PM
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It is available! Thank the gods. Im going to order in the am.

Would all these components be enough for a good lift?


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Old Jan 24, 2020 | 11:20 PM
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I wouldn't mix the fabtec arms with ball joint spacers. The arms are made to correct the ball joint angle and adding the spacers to them will throw that off.
Those torsion bars are the wrong ones. Those are for 4x4s, you want #1636.
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert m
I wouldn't mix the fabtec arms with ball joint spacers. The arms are made to correct the ball joint angle and adding the spacers to them will throw that off.
Those torsion bars are the wrong ones. Those are for 4x4s, you want #1636.
so let me get this correct.. sorry for my redundancy. Fabtech control arms, shocks and torsion lift are all i need to life the front? And add a leaf will lift back enough? Would save me $100 bucks if the BJ spacers are not needed.
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 08:04 AM
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That's what you need to lift the front as best you can, with what's available today.
The rear will be a crap shoot because it will depend on what shape your stock springs are in. If your springs are sagged out, the add a leafs might not do very much so shackles might be needed.

With all that said, dont forget you're still going to need a body lift. And after 30+ years, the rubber body mounts could be shot too so you might need new ones which goes for every other rubber bushing you're going to be touching while messing with the suspension too.
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert m
That's what you need to lift the front as best you can, with what's available today.
The rear will be a crap shoot because it will depend on what shape your stock springs are in. If your springs are sagged out, the add a leafs might not do very much so shackles might be needed.

With all that said, dont forget you're still going to need a body lift. And after 30+ years, the rubber body mounts could be shot too so you might need new ones which goes for every other rubber bushing you're going to be touching while messing with the suspension too.

thank you for the advise and knowledge. I will keep you updated when I get the parts. I have to deal with my timing chain first. No point of having a lifted truck that dont run 😂
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