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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 05:55 AM
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5vzfe valve lifters - hydraulic vs shim

Hey guys, doing a rebuild on my 5vzfe and came across some info on the net that toyota produced a hydraulic lifter bucket that replaced the old fashioned shimed bucket. Does anybody have any info on this?
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 07:56 AM
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No, but interesting. Shims are a pain.
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 08:48 AM
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about 1:45-1:50 in he mentions and shows such a thing.
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by skullhead690
Hey guys, doing a rebuild on my 5vzfe and came across some info on the net that toyota produced a hydraulic lifter bucket that replaced the old fashioned shimed bucket. ...
Which info you have decided to not share with us?

I'd never heard of this, but Google turned up the DNJ LIF950, which supposedly DOES fit a 3VZE. (The lifters are not "made" by Toyota, of course.)
https://www.yotashop.com/1992-toyota...lifter-lif950/
https://partsology.com/dnj-lif950-lifters-3vze

Aside from shims being, well, challenging, these (supposedly) hydraulic lifters cost less than what I pay for a single shim!

I have 12 lifters of course, so replacing all of them would be over $100. I wonder if you could replace them one at a time? (when a valve is out of spec, and I would otherwise have to buy a shim or two)

Well, probably wouldn't be worth the effort. Unlike replacing a shim, to put in hydraulic lifters the cams would have to come out. Might as well do the whole job ...

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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 10:38 AM
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The only info I had was from the video I posted. Admittedly I was wrong in saying toyota produced such a thing. A call to a dealer didn't produce any results. But what you've found is certainly promising. I'll look into it and see what I find. It kinda helps that my engine and heads are going into a machine shop, so I can compare stock shims to these. Thanks!
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by scope103
Which info you have decided to not share with us?

I'd never heard of this, but Google turned up the DNJ LIF950, which supposedly DOES fit a 3VZE. (The lifters are not "made" by Toyota, of course.)
https://www.yotashop.com/1992-toyota...lifter-lif950/
https://partsology.com/dnj-lif950-lifters-3vze

Aside from shims being, well, challenging, these (supposedly) hydraulic lifters cost less than what I pay for a single shim!

I have 12 lifters of course, so replacing all of them would be over $100. I wonder if you could replace them one at a time? (when a valve is out of spec, and I would otherwise have to buy a shim or two)

Well, probably wouldn't be worth the effort. Unlike replacing a shim, to put in hydraulic lifters the cams would have to come out. Might as well do the whole job ...
What makes you think that those 'lifters' are anything but solid buckets that require a selective shim???
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 11:32 AM
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Agree, those links don’t look like anything beyond the stock lifter bucket. And they aren’t even for the 3.4 like the OP is rebuilding. Although I’m fairly certain the shims are the same for most Toyota’s, so perhaps the buckets are as well?
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Old Jan 24, 2019 | 11:48 AM
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What makes you think that those 'lifters' are anything but solid buckets that require a selective shim???
This site https://www.autopartswarehouse.com/e.../dnj/dnjlif950 calls them hydraulic. 'course, that and $5.50 will buy you a cup of coffee. The photos don't look like standard "buckets," but they don't look like much else, either. I tried to find a DNJ website, or any other clearer description, without luck.

So if you're thinking of "upgrading" to hydraulic, you'd better make a few phone calls first.
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