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Old Feb 24, 2018 | 08:54 AM
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Water outlet is leaking on 3vz.

Looks like 2 bolts, scrape old fipg off , apply new fipg,re install.
Am I missing anything ?

1990 toy 2wd 3.0 auto , ps
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Old Feb 24, 2018 | 02:41 PM
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Manual shows 3 nuts and a gasket.
http://web.archive.org/web/201311071...10thermost.pdf
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Old Feb 24, 2018 | 03:01 PM
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That's for thermostat .
im talkin about water outlet pipe
top front w 2 Bolts
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Old Feb 24, 2018 | 03:03 PM
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Thanks for the reply

​​​​​​​that's pic off the net
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Old Feb 25, 2018 | 06:29 PM
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Here's the manual page for the water outlet. http://web.archive.org/web/201204051...67timingbe.pdf It gives the procedure you described.

Did you assemble it quickly enough? (I'm not professional-speed, so I use RTV) Torque it correctly? Could you have a pit/crack in the casting?
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Old Feb 26, 2018 | 02:09 AM
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I Haven't done it yet.
waiting for the 1282 fipg

just asking before I start it

thanks for the link
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Old Feb 26, 2018 | 03:10 AM
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There is one important thing no manual will cover. Any time u open the cooling system like this, u really need to burp or bleed the air bubbles out of the system.
personally, i have the most success getting the engine warmed up so the thermostat is open, then sticking a rag over the radiator and overflow tanks, carefully slowly open the hot pressurised radiator and let the pressure eacape. start the engine with radiator open rev to 1500rpm, (this will push all air to the front of the syatem which happena to be the radiator top tank). And while revving at 1500, fill radiator to brim with warm water and cloae the cap. Dont add cold water, u risk shocking the system which will lead to a crack.
then, after all this, ensure the overdlow bottle is filled to halfway.
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Old Feb 26, 2018 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sayers
... waiting for the 1282 fipg ...
The big advantage of FIPG is that it sets very fast. Which is great if you need to get that vehicle out of the bay to work on the next one.

I'm not nearly quick enough, and I can let it sit overnight. So I prefer RTV. You shouldn't have trouble here.

The water outlet is also held with nuts, on studs. As you undo the nut, it could take the stud with it. You don't care, but to remove the timing cover, the studs have to come out, so you need to lock two nuts together to take out the stud.

The removable (upper) part has a groove to "hold" the gasket material. You'll want to clean that out too.
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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 12:02 PM
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No rush at all
it’s a 3rd vehicle
how long should the 1282 fipg set before you re install?

thanks for the info
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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 12:18 PM
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Read the instructions on the package to be sure, but with most sealants you re-install immediately. The longer you wait to refill and start the engine the better (with most sealants). I say that because I haven't used 1282 fipg
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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 12:31 PM
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With RTV you want to wait overnight. https://www.permatex.com/products/ga...licone-gasket/ With FIPG (or Permatex The Right Stuff https://www.permatex.com/products/ga...e-gasket-grey/), 30 minutes is enough. As it says in the manual, if you use FIPG and it takes more than 5 minutes from applying to gently snugging the nuts, you have to start over.

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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 12:06 PM
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Ok so make it quick
lol
yeah I have the 1282 fipg

would seem like you want it to set to make
the ‘oring’ shape before you smash it down
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 12:13 PM
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Nope, put it together quick, and if it makes you feel any better just barely snug the nuts/bolts and let the sealant set up before torqueing them down.
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 12:37 PM
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Yeah that sounds good

hope the studs don’t snap

thank you
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 03:45 PM
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There is a specified torque value (where would you find it?) You'd have to go WAY over that value to snap a stud. The value isn't too high; consider getting a 1/4" drive torque wrench https://www.harborfreight.com/14-in-...nch-61277.html just for all the fasteners with a 10mm or smaller head.

As AKWheeler hints, you'll get a better seal if you tighten the nuts hand tight, then let the sealant set, then bring them to torque. You don't want to squeeze out ALL the sealant.
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 04:21 PM
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I mean the studs break upon removal of the nuts
they’re far from new
i have torque wrenches
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Old Mar 2, 2018 | 04:38 PM
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soak them with penetrating lube and hope for the best.
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