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Old Apr 2, 2017 | 04:46 PM
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Relay rod rubbing oil pan 2wd

just bought this 1985 2wd pickup 22r. Cleaning some things up and can't for the life of me figure out what's going on here.

the relay rod for the tie rods just sits right up against oil pan and rubs back and forth.

motor mounts look okay to me.. unless they're the wrong ones? Are there different motor mounts for different applications?

Maybe wrong idler arm? I don't know I'm dead in my tracks need some input and ideas... yes I'm aware some tierod ends are loose I had to pop them free to remove oil pan.






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Old Apr 2, 2017 | 05:04 PM
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Also forgot to mention rod only touches oil pan when wheels are straight. When I turn the wheels right or left there is good clearance. Which makes me think wrong idler arm. When the wheel is straight the idler arm is fully extended
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Old Apr 3, 2017 | 08:16 PM
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Or can someone with an 85 22r 2wd snap a pic to compare oil pans? Thinking it mayb be the wrong one
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 01:15 PM
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Dirty pictures as promised.
Attached Thumbnails Relay rod rubbing oil pan 2wd-under-dr.jpg   Relay rod rubbing oil pan 2wd-under-pass.jpg  
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 07:28 PM
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Hmmm interesting... from a side view does yours look like this? Thanks for the pics!

This is the only pic I can find that mine looks like...


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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 07:35 PM
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Hmmm interesting... from a side view does yours look like this? Thanks for the pics!
I'll see if I can get a side view tomorrow.
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 07:56 PM
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I'll see if I can get a side view tomorrow.
Awesome. That first picture looks like the most common for our trucks. But mine is different. It doesn't have the 3 levels. Just two
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Old Apr 5, 2017 | 08:06 PM
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Right now I'm 90% sure mine is from a celica. Exact shape just has different lines (indent patterns)
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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 12:21 AM
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I tried to look in my shed yesterday for a 2wd oil pan, but it's a mess and weather hasn't been any better lol. I know there's an oil pan in there, just not sure if 4x4 or 2wd. Defo seems to be the wrong oil pan for the model of truck, finding out what it's from is interesting though.

Let's atleast figure out the year range the engine is =). I'd assume you have the "laser block" on the driver's side. From memory it's just in front of the motor mount. Probably a pain to see with the alt on, maybe underside you can see better.


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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 05:52 AM
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Did not know that! I will take a look at that after work.. But I think you're right as the pistons are flat top and the head has pear shape exhaust ports..
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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 08:01 AM
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Ahh yea, forgot you did mention the flat top pistons, so the engine should be 85+. Never hurts to double validate though .
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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 10:52 AM
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Ahh yea, forgot you did mention the flat top pistons, so the engine should be 85+. Never hurts to double validate though .
Absolutely!! Now if only there was a way to validate an oil pan lol
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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 11:00 AM
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Here are the pics of the pan on my 84
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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 05:23 PM
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Alright this is definitely the wrong oil pan. I pulled it out again and I was wrong about how I said it looked lol. Here's some more pics. This thing is tiny. My sump and oil plug are directly above the crossmember. L5wolvesf sits further back behind crossmember.. it has to be out of a car application. But I still have never seen one like mine anywhere online.



Notice the gap between sump and sway bar on mine vs L5wolvesf. My sump is further forward and causing relay rod to hit it.
Notice how much deeper L5wolvesf sump is than mine. In reference to crossmember. My crossmember is removed but you can see where it bolts across.
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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 05:31 PM
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It kinda looks like yours would have slightly less capacity too. Time to find yourself the correct pan.
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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 05:38 PM
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FINALLY!! Think I found the answer. Although we all knew it was the wrong oil pan lol

But i pulled dipstick out (which is factory Toyota) and was able to read the part number. And here is what I found.

20r oil pan out of a late 70's corona or celica. At least the swapped the dip stick lol

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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 05:41 PM
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It's amazing what happens when you whip out your dipstick
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Haha funny. Did the block have that laser spot? I wonder if the whole engine is from that era too.
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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by L5wolvesf
It's amazing what happens when you whip out your dipstick
LMAO!

thanks for all the help and taking the time to take those pics.
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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by atcfixer
Haha funny. Did the block have that laser spot? I wonder if the whole engine is from that era too.
The block did indeed have lazerspot.. did they have the 22r in that era? I was under the impression that era of rigs wer 20r.. I've been wrong once before tho lol...

The block has the laser spot and is stamped 22r with flat top pistons.. all those indicate 85+ right? The head is for sure post 85.. just can't figure out why someone would swap in a 20r oil pan, pickup tube, and dipstick into the wrong application...

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