I WILL PAY $20.00 to the first person that can correctly diagnose my starting issue!!
#1
I WILL PAY $20.00 to the first person that can correctly diagnose my starting issue!!
YES! This is correct. Tell me whats up with this seemingly endless issue with this little trucks starting problem and I will Paypal you $20.00 or Money Order.
The truck - 1982 SR5 brand new motor (1800 miles) fresh head, new fuel pump, new fuel filter, DE SMOGGED see pics below (egr blocked off, canister etc etc), BRAND NEW CARB! New dizzy, new wires, tuned up about 500 miles ago new cap, rotor, plugs. New starter and the battery is about 5 years old.
The issue - This is the THIRD carb in this little truck in one year. One carb I rebuilt and the other two from Carb Exchange new rebuilt fresh everything. The problem still persists.
I get in the truck cold and it fires right up. I put it in gear and drive it down the highway to my destination. Usually about 20 miles. I then shut of the truck go about my business for about 30 min. I get back in the truck and go to start it and it cranks and cranks and wont fire for at least 10 seconds of cranking. Finally it stumbles and fires. Black smoke comes out of the exhaust and there is a fuel smell. The butterfly on the choke is straight up and down like it is suppose to be. The fast idle and idle mix screw settings are spot on. There is no fuel in the AAP on the carb. Timing is spot on and it idles perfect. The truck has good power and no hesitation once it is up and going. Compression tests on all holes show 160. No exhaust or vacuum leaks or intake leaks. Everything else is hopefully to spec.
ANY experienced carb person PLEASE chime in!


The truck - 1982 SR5 brand new motor (1800 miles) fresh head, new fuel pump, new fuel filter, DE SMOGGED see pics below (egr blocked off, canister etc etc), BRAND NEW CARB! New dizzy, new wires, tuned up about 500 miles ago new cap, rotor, plugs. New starter and the battery is about 5 years old.
The issue - This is the THIRD carb in this little truck in one year. One carb I rebuilt and the other two from Carb Exchange new rebuilt fresh everything. The problem still persists.
I get in the truck cold and it fires right up. I put it in gear and drive it down the highway to my destination. Usually about 20 miles. I then shut of the truck go about my business for about 30 min. I get back in the truck and go to start it and it cranks and cranks and wont fire for at least 10 seconds of cranking. Finally it stumbles and fires. Black smoke comes out of the exhaust and there is a fuel smell. The butterfly on the choke is straight up and down like it is suppose to be. The fast idle and idle mix screw settings are spot on. There is no fuel in the AAP on the carb. Timing is spot on and it idles perfect. The truck has good power and no hesitation once it is up and going. Compression tests on all holes show 160. No exhaust or vacuum leaks or intake leaks. Everything else is hopefully to spec.
ANY experienced carb person PLEASE chime in!


Last edited by toyospearo; Feb 2, 2014 at 02:45 PM.
#5
checked it. Even drained it and cleaned it. I swapped in a 16 gallon tank out of a long bed into this short box. While the tank was out I cleaned it and cleaned it some more.
The constant same scenario leads to something else. Something I am missing.
What I am hoping is someone out there will recognize this and know exactly what is going on. I have worked on a number of Asian Carbs and I have never (ironically) seen this.
The constant same scenario leads to something else. Something I am missing.
What I am hoping is someone out there will recognize this and know exactly what is going on. I have worked on a number of Asian Carbs and I have never (ironically) seen this.
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#8
I don't think it is limited to the carb. I posted up pics of the carb so someone might recognize a line or something screwy. I have swapped parts back and fouth. I work part time at a shop that builds the 22r series motor.
There is one thing. On the fuel pump I have two of the three lines plugged. I can't think why this would cause this issue.
Yes this is a new fuel pump. Changing that didn't fix it.
There is one thing. On the fuel pump I have two of the three lines plugged. I can't think why this would cause this issue.
Yes this is a new fuel pump. Changing that didn't fix it.
#10
First thought is its running rich with the fuel smell and black smoke. Tell me this, have you tried resetting the air/fuel mixture screw back to factory specs? Thats four turns out from being all the way in. Then try leaning it out 1/4 (counter clockwise) turns at a time and see if it helps. And of course make sure the timing is 5 degrees.
#12
Any reason the return line to the tank is plugged? Never seen anyone do that. I would try hooking that up and see what happens. I'm wondering if that is causing to much fuel pressure somehow.
Last edited by 83Toyota88; Feb 2, 2014 at 04:48 PM.
#15
I will keep updating the progress.
Last edited by toyospearo; Feb 2, 2014 at 04:56 PM.
#16
I googled 3 port fuel pumps and the return line is supposed to help keep the gas cooler and keeping the motor/carb from vapor locking.
#18
both great suggestions. It is raining at the moment and I don't feel like removing the air cleaner and looking at what is plugged and what isn't. I honestly cannot remember if I plugged that line or not. I can say I can't imagine why I would plug it. It will have to wait until morning.
Last edited by toyospearo; Feb 2, 2014 at 05:26 PM.



