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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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wandering in snow in 4wheel, not the snows fault.

My 90 3.0 runner wants to buck and squirm only on snow covered pavement when its in 4wheel. Put it back in two wheel its fine. Off road its fine even in 2 inches of snow. On dry roads the alignment doesn't seem to bad tracks fairly straight. Just wondering if I might have a hub going out or a caliper or what's up let me know. Thanks
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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Put it up on jack stands and wiggle the tire/wheel with it attached to the suspension. If there is a lot of play then you're going to need a new bearing.

I see you're in NE PA. If you would like some help, let me know i'm also in NE PA.

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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Thanks I didn't think of that. Have to check it out tomorrow. Help would be cool but I'm outside of wilkes barre about an hour north. And the shop where I work on my toys is north of bloomsburg 45min from me.
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Nice, not too far from me!
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 08:35 PM
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If you have gone off road in glen Lyon you could have pulled out of the trails into my yard. If you up ever let me know
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 04:21 AM
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No crazy play in either wheel. Drove it slow in 4 in an unplowed parking lot the steering wheel wants to jerk left. Feels like something is binding up??
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 06:02 AM
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What sort of hubs do you have? If ADD this is irrelevant, but maybe one hub is not locked/locking?

How's your tire pressure?

I don't think wheel bearing play would be this noticeable at low speed, but if you really want to check you must grab the tire at 12 and 6 o'clock and try to wiggle it. Grab it any other place and you will be feeling the suspension linkage.
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 06:07 AM
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Maybe you busted a spider gear.

A hard jerk sounds like something broke, a birfield probably.
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 06:15 AM
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I'm in Wilkes-Barre, just sayin. Is the truck up here? Or down there?

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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 07:07 AM
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arnt birfields only in sfa? :thinking:
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:31 PM
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Xxxtreme its out in glen Lyon. In my yard I drove it to work in that little bit of snow last night and noticed it
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by az4x4runner
What sort of hubs do you have? If ADD this is irrelevant, but maybe one hub is not locked/locking?

How's your tire pressure?

I don't think wheel bearing play would be this noticeable at low speed, but if you really want to check you must grab the tire at 12 and 6 o'clock and try to wiggle it. Grab it any other place and you will be feeling the suspension linkage.
They are manual hubs. 35 psi all around

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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 08:14 PM
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Xxxtreme are you saying you want to take a look at it for me. It would be appreciated up to you let me know
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 04:00 AM
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Yeah I can do that. Got issues with my 4wd now too. lol. I'll PM ya my number.
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Old Jan 23, 2012 | 05:48 AM
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It also sounds like you could have different front and rear end ratios. Just something to consider.

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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by vasinvictor
It also sounds like you could have different front and rear end ratios. Just something to consider.
Confirmed. I didn't see this reply, but having drove it around a building, it was my first feeling. I could hear rear tire trying to break free and spinning faster then the front.

The knucklehead who had the truck before hand put a v6 4.10 in the rear. Truck has the factory 4.56 front end. Manual hub converted ADD BTW. ADD shaft "locked" with manual hubs.

We talked about this already, what you need is the rear from a V6 (4 ribbed case not 3 ribbed) from a truck or 4runner with the gear code 252 or 254.

http://www.brian894x4.com/Gearratiosanddiffs.html

I forgot to show you exactly where I was looking on the door jam plate, so here is your reference.


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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 09:03 AM
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thanks xxx for the help. if you want to get that frame welded up let me know the lift is free in my friends shop. when ever your ready hes got quite a bit of steal laying around up there so whenever you want let me know
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Old Jan 29, 2012 | 09:08 AM
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Here is your links to removing those axles. Ignore the wheel bearing parts. http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/mainte...wheel_bearing/

Also if you haven't already, right click save as the FSM (service manual): http://www.ncttora.com/fsm/1990-1995....1990.1995.zip
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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anyone watching this still I got a 4.56 third from the yard installed it last weekend. 4wheel works great. thanks XXX for the help. now im running into some other problems I think with the overdrive I dont know.
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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Hey, you were supposed to call me to help ya put em in.
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