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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 09:20 AM
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manual tranny wont go into gear

my tranny is not letting me put it in gear sometimes. put other times its slides right in. when the engine is off i can put it in gear but i cant start it with the clutch in and in gear. i found if i turn the engine off and off about three times it will go into gear. what could cause this.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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cracked pedal bracket, mis-adjusted clutch rod and/or bad shifter seats/bushings.
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 09:29 PM
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what do you think about the clutch line being bad?
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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check the clutch hydrolics. fluid full? clutch slave or master leaking? shifter bushings bad?
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 09:45 PM
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changed all the fluid nothing is leaking. ill look into the bushings tomorrow. but its pretty unpridictable when in wont go into gear if its the bushings would do it all the time or randomly?
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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yeah if the clutch is not getting pushed all the way to disengaged then it makes it harder to go in, if u can have someone push in the clutch and see if the rubber line has a bubble in it or something...
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Old Apr 5, 2011 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by runs-on-4
when the engine is off i can put it in gear but i cant start it with the clutch in and in gear.
So I assume the reason it wont start is because it lurches forward like the clutch is not pushed in. Does fluid come out of the slave cylinder if it is gravity bleed? If the pedal bracket seems fine as previously stated, I have to agree with looking into the slave cylinder, everytime I have replaced a slave cylinder, I replace the line with it also. I have had a slave cylinder stick intermintenly and then go back to normal. My opinion on the clutch rod is that it should not have to ever be adjusted on a hydraulic system that has not been drastically changed, and if it does, it is just a band-aid for something else that is wrong with it, but like I said that is my opinion.
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 09:31 PM
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so everything seemed to be fine with my tranny today, and i did nothing to it
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Old Apr 6, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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it was cold up your way. could it of caused u to have more pressure on the slave cylinder due to the fluid being thicker? i think u might have a little air in the line.
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 12:10 AM
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Hows your transmission fluid?
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Old Apr 7, 2011 | 03:14 AM
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Ditto on the slave cylinder. I've had the same symptons on two other vehicles, a jeep and a chevy truck, and both times it was the slave cylinder. On the chevy, I thought that it was the master cylinder, but it acted the same way after changing the MC.

The transmission fluid, or gear oil because it's a manual, will not affect the clutch engagement/disengagement. The entire clutch system is external to the transmission.

It may be acting fine right now, but my advice would be to go ahead and change out the slave cylinder and bleed the lines. It's really an easy process.

Take it from me, it is easier and safer to switch out parts at your house than on the side of the road.
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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 08:18 AM
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figured out it was my slave or master cylinder its leaking through the firewall under my carpet which would explain why i never noticed a leak
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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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yeah, your master cylinder (on your firewall) is what is leaking. Usually it is the boot around the shaft that your clutch pedal connects to goes bad and the seal inside starts leaking the fluid. That will cause the lack of pressure that the slave cylinder needs to push on the fork that in turn eases the pressure plate off of the clutch pad and lets the transmission go into gear.

Change that out, fill the new master cylinder up with fluid, bleed the lines like you would brake lines, and then you should be good to go.

let us know how it turns out for you!
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