I am changing the cv joints, shock absorbers, and disc rotor on the driver side right now. I have gotten the axle mostly out but I cannot for the life of me get the auto hub cover off!!! I've tapped it, beaten it, pried it and it won't come off. The Haynes manual says use a tapered punch to punch some cone wAshers out - huh??? This shouldn't be this difficult!! The manual's picture is not detailed at all and it's extremely vague. Going to upload a pic to imgur and show in the reply. This is a nightmare!! Please help!

 

Holy giant picture batman!

From reading the thread on swapping out to manual hubs, if you tap on the ring with a hammer, the cone washers will/should slide out on their own.

 

See the cone washers on the hub studs?
Hit them...
They pop out..

 

I've about beat the he'll out of them! Are they not embedded? Ive tried prying those "washers" at the seams but nothing. Hit them with what? Hammer? Screw driver work? Sorry I've just tried tons of things already

 

To get manual hubs off I usually hit the hob cover itself, so hitting that ring might work as well. Not sue if the ADD ring is made of aluminum or not like the manual hubs so ya might wanna use a block of wood as well between your hammer and the ring.

And if you can find the right size bolt and if I am not mistaken see those two threaded holes on the ring? IIRC they go all the way through to the rotors. putting two bolts in those long enough to hit the rotor and tightening down equally on both sides at the same time will help pull the ring off too.

 

Sorry about the huge picture. Doing this from iPhone. So will I damage the washers and have to replace them?? I like the bolt idea but have to find some bolts with the length and proper thread count/pitch. Sigh. Anyone want to buy my rig? $1800 north Alabama. Sunk tons of cash in it

 

spray them with some WD-40 then punch them where the crack of the cone. Also help is you try to make them turn while the punch or screw driver is on the crack of the cone washer

 

I would recommend putting the nuts on finger tight too because when I swapped mine to manuals, the first one went flying at me bouncing off the wall. I was able to find it but not that I needed it because I bought new ones (all 12 cost me like $30!!!, not cheap & that was my cost at the dealership I work for). It probably wouldn't feel to good if it caught you in the eye...

I have extras, about 24 of them IIRC, my old ones plus the ones that I got with my hubs when I bought them off xxtreme22r.

Those bolt holes are M6 X 1.25 I think. If you have manual hubs to swap, try one of the bolts for the out hub dial. (Those were that size), if they are too small, they are probably M8 x 1.25....not sure what length you'll need though.

To get mine off, all I had to do was tap around the edge of the flange with a hammer & sometimes the washers popped off opposite of where I was tapping.

 

hey ruskymx did those hubs work out for ya? or just haven't switched them out yet?

 

Yup,finally put them on last week....I had them cleaned up last summer and painted etc, but finally decided to put them on.

 

good deal. FYI, I am still not sure how to fully convert without swapping out that entire add tube. lol.

Anyway to the O.P. I believe those cone washers are actually designed not to be reused, but I believe most of us, myself included wind up reusing them anyway.

 

Exactly!^^ I was trying to use a punch, MADE FOR THAT SPECIFIC JOB, etc., hahaha... no go. Put some nuts on the studs right to the edge, banged away with a brass rod, 'BOINGGGGGGGGGG', they SHOT back and out. I'm REALLY happy I had read to put the nuts on there, as they would have shot 1" into my wall, most likely! lol.

PS> As XXX just said, ...."yes, many of us DO reuse those cone washers", lol. I bought 2 new ones as I MANGLED those 2, lol.

 

I have owned close to 70 vehicles and several 4x4's. Most of my vehicles have been fords (which in partial to), and this is my first Toyota truck (had a 92 camry once). I do all my own maintenance And am quite capable of motor swaps, transmission swaps etc - but I have never encountered cone washers. I had no clue what the Haynes manual was talking about! (I've figured it out now) is this a Toyota or Japanese thing? I've never seen them before and I think it's a good thing that I haven't! Infernal frustrating torture devices. (I still don't have em out- ran out of sun) have to ha e her back up and running for work Monday morning. Grrr! Thanks for the info guys.

 

You get it, right? Obviously you know what you're doing, ...this is just something you've not encountered. I get that... but you get it to smack it with a shaft of brass on the end of the studs, nuts installed plum with the end of the stud(obviously so you don't damage the studs, lol). Mine popped right out, after HOURS of furious talking to myselfitus! lol.

Best wishes, you'll get it, and then you'll laugh at how this works and NONE OF THE MANUALS SUGGEST IT! "a Punch", ..WTH??? LOL.

 

PS> Welcome to Yotatech, BAM!

 

This may work. I used this method.

http://eturkov.blogspot.com/2010/10/...ner-front.html

 

I've done a fair amount of front end work on Yota's. What I've always done is heat the outside of the hub, or whatever it's called, with a propane torch after spraying them with wd-40. Then I put the nuts on so that they are flush with the stud and tap the end of the stud with a brass punch. Works for most of them and then the others that won't pop out, I just pound on the outside of the hub by the cone washers and they pop right out. I prefer to tap on the stud so that I keep the visual damage done to the hub piece, to a minimum.

 

I can't wait to try this at first light tomorrow! This should be a big siren!! I feel like an idiot when I read about "cone washers" and am completely clueless!!! This has been an experience!!! Can't wait to be able to tell a friend "oh... The cone washers"!...

 

They do make conical washer pliers, MAC or OTC, I have a set, cant remember who makes them.

You could always go the cheap way and do as this guy did
http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wa...ml#post5406954

 

I love you guys. Woot! WD-40 and nuts on the end of studs with a few firm blows did the trick. One day I will seem like a genius to some other unsuspecting guy when he stumbles on this too. I honestly had no idea what I was looking at until after you guys explained it to me. I'm sure I'll be back! Thanks!