General Vehicle Related Topics (Non Year Related) If topic doesn't apply to Toyotas whatsoever, it should be in Off Topic
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Which transmission fluid should i get?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:11 PM
  #1  
Bojangles's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 997
Likes: 8
From: Sc
Which transmission fluid should i get?

Im putting a new Tranny in my 1994 toyota 4x4 pickup.
Its a 5 speed manual W56 transmission.

Im looking for the best synthetic transmission fluid for my tranny to help it last longer, shift better, etc etc.

Who's had experience with what? And what would you recommend?
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:22 PM
  #2  
MudHippy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,106
Likes: 27
I haven't had experience with any but the Valvoline full synthetic 75W-90 GL-5. Which seemed to work alright. I switched to non-synth 85W-90 GL-4 to see if it would improve shift quality. It seemed to, but not drastically. I may have even been imagining it. That's the rumor anyway, supposedly GL-4 is good for smoother shifting. I'm just not sure I buy that one anymore, and GL-5 wasn't much worse(if at all). And at the cost of being less effective at preventing wear, I don't think it's quite the bargain I used to.

So, the next time I change it I'm going back to full synthetic. I plan on using the Richmond Gear full synthetic GL-6 high performance manual transmission fluid. I'm not fooling around anymore, having had to replace my transmission once already. I filled the junkyard replacement tranny with the GL-4 stuff because I had some left in the gallon jug, and another gallon of it was all I could afford at the time(I don't like mixing oils, and it was still cheaper than full synthetic, but by no means cheap). I'm just getting my money's worth out of it for a few more months, then it's outta there!


http://www.richmondgear.com/0002pdfs/OILSANDLUBE.pdf

Last edited by MudHippy; Feb 1, 2011 at 12:37 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:24 PM
  #3  
Bojangles's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 997
Likes: 8
From: Sc
Originally Posted by MudHippy
I haven't had experience with any but the Vlavoline full synthetic 75W-90 GL-5. Which seemed to work alright. I switched to non-synth 85W-90 GL-4 to see if it would improve shift quality. It seemed to, but not drastically. I may have even been imagining it.

So, the next time I change it I'm going back to full synthetic. I plan on using the Richmond Gear full synthetic GL-6 high performance manual transmission fluid. I'm not fooling around anymore, having had to replace my transmission once already.


http://www.richmondgear.com/0002pdfs/OILSANDLUBE.pdf

I hear ya!
How many quarts does a w56 tranny hold?
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:36 PM
  #4  
xxxtreme22r's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 13,574
Likes: 72
From: Wilkes-Barre, PA, USA
Royal Purple Max-Gear 75W90 oil is what I used to use in my Elantra when I was Autocrossing. Made a huge improvement even with only 10,000 miles on the trans.

When I get around to it, that's what my diffs, transfer etc etc is gonna be getting.

It's a little pricey for some people though.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:36 PM
  #5  
Junkers88's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,371
Likes: 6
From: Texas
I've run Royal Purple synthetic (GL4 I believe) in two rigs. One 1986 22re, 5 speed 4x4 SR5 pickup, and my current 89 4runner 22re, 5 speed 4x4 SR5. Both seemed to like the fluids. The 86 had 160,000 when I sold it, the 89 has 235,000 right now. No issues.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:44 PM
  #6  
Bojangles's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 997
Likes: 8
From: Sc
Sooo Royal purple sounds like the best thing i can look for?
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:47 PM
  #7  
xxxtreme22r's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 13,574
Likes: 72
From: Wilkes-Barre, PA, USA
Personally I wouldn't use anything else, but I have not use any other stuff so I am a little biased. If I had the money to do all of them and if my rear pinion seal wasn't leaking, I'd already have that stuff in. Who knows what's in mine now I have my oil change place buddies top me off every now and then lol.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:48 PM
  #8  
MudHippy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,106
Likes: 27
Originally Posted by Bojangles
How many quarts does a w56 tranny hold?
The 85 FSM says 3.2 quarts.

I wouldn't say Royal Purple is no good. From what I've heard it's worth the price. The only reason I'm going with the Richmond Gear fluid is because it meets GL-6 specifications, whereas the RP is only GL-5 and less effective at preventing wear because of that fact.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:53 PM
  #9  
snobdds's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,306
Likes: 8
From: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Redline MT-90. Today for example, we had temps of -16 with a wind chill of -38. I just switched to Redline MT-90 full synethic. The tranny was stiff, but it still shifted good in that cold of weather.

MT-90 is suppose to not be so corrosive in the tranny. So far I am sold on the stuff.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:56 PM
  #10  
Bojangles's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 997
Likes: 8
From: Sc
Originally Posted by xxxtreme22r
Personally I wouldn't use anything else, but I have not use any other stuff so I am a little biased. If I had the money to do all of them and if my rear pinion seal wasn't leaking, I'd already have that stuff in. Who knows what's in mine now I have my oil change place buddies top me off every now and then lol.

Haha im gonna have to start doing that.
My rear end was rebuilt with new pinion bearing, bearings and gears last year and for some reason i have an extremely slow drip now.
But im thinking about rolling with the royal purple 75w90 or the valvolene 75w90.

Originally Posted by MudHippy
The 85 FSM says 3.2 quarts.

I wouldn't say Royal Purple is no good. From what I've heard it's worth the price. The only reason I'm going with the Richmond Gear fluid is because it meets GL-6 specifications, whereas the RP is only GL-5 and less effective at preventing wear because of that fact.
So i should probably order 4 quarts
Ill have to check it out and look into it. Nothing is written in stone yet Thanks fellas.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 12:58 PM
  #11  
Bojangles's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 997
Likes: 8
From: Sc
Originally Posted by snobdds
Redline MT-90. Today for example, we had temps of -16 with a wind chill of -38. I just switched to Redline MT-90 full synethic. The tranny was stiff, but it still shifted good in that cold of weather.

MT-90 is suppose to not be so corrosive in the tranny. So far I am sold on the stuff.

Sounds like some good stuff.

I dont think ive ever seen the temp under 12 degrees or so here in SC so i dont usually have that problem haha.
Ive heard some good stuff about Redline though.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 01:39 PM
  #12  
Junkers88's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,371
Likes: 6
From: Texas
Originally Posted by Bojangles
Sooo Royal purple sounds like the best thing i can look for?
I don't know if it is the best but all the research I did said it was. At 12$ a quart it was an expensive fluid change..... I like it and will never use anything else.
Reply
Old Feb 1, 2011 | 03:14 PM
  #13  
xxxtreme22r's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 13,574
Likes: 72
From: Wilkes-Barre, PA, USA
Bo don't switch over to that syn gear oil if your seals are leaking, they are probably gonna leak more with it, as the syn is gonna do what it was somewhat designed to do and flow better.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2011 | 05:52 PM
  #14  
pruney81's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,600
Likes: 1
From: Leadville Colorado
Redline MT90 gets my vote. I'm currently using it in my 1990 W56.

The benefits of MT 90 is that it is not corrosive to our brass synchros.

Last edited by pruney81; Feb 4, 2011 at 05:54 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2011 | 06:07 PM
  #15  
survivorman97's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 262
Likes: 1
From: Missouri
yeah you should definitely read some of the info on redline's website, its pretty convincing stuff. However I am currently running BG Synchroshift II 75W-80 GL-4 and I really love it. The stuff is a little hard to find but if you can get it I would go for it! If not I hear nothing but good things about MT-90 and Amazon has a good price on it.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2011 | 06:10 PM
  #16  
BoostedRNR's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
From: Logan, Ut
I'm also voting Redline MT90. My tranny is pushing 300k miles and shifts awesome still!
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2011 | 06:11 PM
  #17  
rhill's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 265
Likes: 0
From: Fresno, CA
I'm a little late to the party, but here's another vote for MT90. Royal Purple gets bashed pretty frequently over at bobistheoilguy.com for reasons that only a chemist or a micro biologist could understand...
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 05:57 AM
  #18  
andrewflores17's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
From: colorado springs ,co
royal purple all the way i didnt wana do it cause of the cost so i did 2 royal purples to one valvoline syntheitc before it was just valvoline sythetic .

wow is all i can say been two days on it amazing shifts with ease espeialy when cold i used to have to work to get into first now its as easy as can be amazeing well worth the 20 bucks a bottle dont know if it would have been anybetter as full royal purple but my 2/3rds mix is amazeing enough in imporvment for me .
:wabbit:
going to do this mix from now on it is more than twice the price of a traditonal sythetic but hey it works realy well so why not .

(woulda tryed redline just cant find anyone who sells the stuff have heard good things on the TDI forums as well though about it )
Reply
Old May 7, 2011 | 01:14 AM
  #19  
wyoming9's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 13,381
Likes: 100
From: I live in New Tripoli Pa out in the woods
Red face

I just use a local Pa brand called Pitt Penn I use the 85/140 pretty much in every thing.

Gear oils are like other products pretty easy to repackage under a private label As long as the product meets the API guide lines
Reply
Old May 7, 2011 | 03:44 AM
  #20  
Swimmerboy2112's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 4,835
Likes: 3
From: Walnutport, PA
Royal Purple is the best IMO.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
smthwsn357
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
15
May 1, 2024 07:28 AM
crammit442
95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners
7
Nov 29, 2017 12:30 PM
Poppie51
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
6
Aug 2, 2015 11:29 PM
mengquis
95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners
1
Jul 13, 2015 10:39 AM
Poncho0206
95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners
3
Jul 10, 2015 06:21 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:22 AM.