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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 08:14 AM
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Superswamper Tire Sizes...?

I'm making this thread to make sure on a couple things before I buy anything... Stating to Toyospearo's Thread, He ordered 33x10.50 TSL Radials. I also was going to order this tire but he stated that the tires showed up at his house and they looked like oversized motorcycle tires. So, giving that... Not im a little sketchy about ordering them because I want a true 33x10.50 tire. I've heard that superswamper tires come from the factory with a thinner/taller result, different from what they advertise. is that true? and if that is true, Cant I just fix the result by ordering a 33x12.50? I checked the sizes and specifications on Superswamper's Tire Chart. Their 33x12.50 has a tread width of 9.6. I thought to myself, well might as well check other brands to justify that, right? right... I checked Toyo's M/T it has a 12.6. I thought, no way... I checked BFG, Maxxis, and other tire brands and they all were in the range of 12.4-12.6 tire tread on a 33x12.50. So to justify getting a 33x10.50 tire, I have to order a 33x12.50... right? I just wanted to clear this all up before I purchase anything. Unless im reading the size/spec charts wrong... this is what im interpreting. Can somebody straighten this all out? anybody running Superswamper tires wanna chime in?

i should also state that Im looking at the TSL radials, and/or Trxus M/T. depending on the information i get here i'll pick a 33x10.50 TSL or 33x12.50 Trxus M/T

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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 09:12 AM
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Define what you mean by a "true 33x10.50" tire. Sounds like you are confusing tread width and section width:
- http://www.4crawler.com/Diesel/Tires.shtml#SectionWidth

My 33x10.50 BFG tires are about 8" - 8.5" tread width and mounted on 15x6 rims, the section width (sidewall bulge) is around 10" - 10.5".
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 09:43 AM
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I want a 33x10.50 tire.. but, Toyospearo mentioned that his 33x10.50s were not, in fact, 10.50 in width. how do I make up for that loss in width is what im trying to figure out. Im asking if a 33x12.50 will solve that issue? i have 15x8 rims, 3.75 backspacing. I want a 33x10.50 that way I can have minimal lift with no rubbing. im asking if a 33x12.50 from SS will come out as a 10.50 in reality... if the 33x10.50 was alot smaller than what it is advertised to be, will a 12.50 solve the issue and be a 33x10.50? does that make more sense?
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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Again, it depends on what you mean by 10.50 wide. I think you'll not find a 10.50 wide tire with a 10.50" wide tread, the 10.50 width is the section width measurement, not the tread width. The section width will depend on what width wheel you mount the tire on, a wider wheel will stretch the sidewalls out wider. The tread width will be whatever width it is molded into the tire.
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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well uhh... hmm... im trying to clarify here. you have 33x10.50s. I want my superswampers to fit like your BFgoodriches do. but because 33x10.50s from Superswamper are reported to be a skinnier tire. Im asking does a 33x12.50 report as a skinnier tire than a "normal" 12.50, like the 10.50 does? On the tire chart on their website they say a 33x12.50 mounted on 8.5 is 9.6 wide. If i mount a 33x12.50 on a 15x8 rim will I be able to run this tire stock with NO rub, like a 33x10.50 from BFgoodrich? does that make more sense?
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MaK92-4RnR
well uhh... hmm... im trying to clarify here. you have 33x10.50s. I want my superswampers to fit like your BFgoodriches do. but because 33x10.50s from Superswamper are reported to be a skinnier tire. Im asking does a 33x12.50 report as a skinnier tire than a "normal" 12.50, like the 10.50 does? On the tire chart on their website they say a 33x12.50 mounted on 8.5 is 9.6 wide. If i mount a 33x12.50 on a 15x8 rim will I be able to run this tire stock with NO rub, like a 33x10.50 from BFgoodrich? does that make more sense?
Well, probably have to find someone who has mounted that exact wheel/tire combo on a similar vehicle to find out for sure. But if you are running a 15x8/3.75" wheel, that backspacing will push the wire out 1" wider than stock and the 8" rim adds another inch wider than a stock wheel, so you are pushing the outer edge of the tire 2" farther out than stock, so likely will need to run a narrower tire to fit, if it even will. The wider out a tire sticks, the more likely it is to rub while turning.

And for off-road use, a 12.50 wide tire is better suited for an 8" rim, 10.50 works better on a 6-7" wide rim.

Also, looking at the TSL radial tire size chart, the 10.50 is 7.9" tread width, the 12.50 is 9.6" wide. On the BFG 33x10.50 the tread width is a little over 8" wide. So does not seem to be a lot of difference there, like a few 10ths of an inch.

You can see how the tread is not as wide as the widest part of the tire (section width) below:

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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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alrighty. I know a BFgoodrich 33x10.50 fits stock though, with no lift. So I might just go with a BFgoodrich KM2 in that size if I cant get an example. thanks for the help 4crawler.
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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if you were to run the SS on the stock rims you should be fine because of the BS and the narrower rim. you def dont want to get 33x12.5 with those wheels and no lift. you will rub BAD. I wtill rub a little bit here and there with my 3.5" or so of lift (i also have cragar wheels that are the exact same size & BS).

I guess what im trying to get at, is that both tires will work great with STOCK wheels and the cragars may give you a little bit of rubbing due to the backspacing.

However, as i was writing that a thought occured to me haha. if the SS are reported to being narrower than the others, they may be perfect with the Cragar wheels and the distance they stick out. Might not rub as much.
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 881stGenRunner
if the SS are reported to being narrower than the others, they may be perfect with the Cragar wheels and the distance they stick out. Might not rub as much.
see thats what im trying to figure out though. IF they are in fact reported "taller and thinner" than most brand of tires, wont they work? I have Toyo 31x10.50 A/Ts on my truck right now and Toyo's are reported to be "bigger" than what they usually advertise. I dont want to have to spend 700 dollars just to see if they'll work... lol
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Originally Posted by MaK92-4RnR
see thats what im trying to figure out though. IF they are in fact reported "taller and thinner" than most brand of tires, wont they work? I have Toyo 31x10.50 A/Ts on my truck right now and Toyo's are reported to be "bigger" than what they usually advertise. I dont want to have to spend 700 dollars just to see if they'll work... lol
I would still spend the money and get the tires. regardless if there is a little bit of rubbing or not. that is quite easy to alleviate...BFH.

You should be fine with it man, you will prolly have some rubbing, but that is probably with any tire you choose due to the rim and its specifications

You can kind of see how much itll stick out with 12.50s here in this pic...

possibly this one too. ill try to get a better one soon.

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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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I would still spend the money and get the tires. regardless if there is a little bit of rubbing or not. that is quite easy to alleviate...BFH.

You should be fine with it man, you will prolly have some rubbing, but that is probably with any tire you choose due to the rim and its specifications

You can kind of see how much itll stick out with 12.50s here in this pic...

possibly this one too. ill try to get a better one soon.

What is the backspacing on your streetlocks?

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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 881stGenRunner
I would still spend the money and get the tires. regardless if there is a little bit of rubbing or not. that is quite easy to alleviate...BFH.

You should be fine with it man, you will prolly have some rubbing, but that is probably with any tire you choose due to the rim and its specifications

You can kind of see how much itll stick out with 12.50s here in this pic...

possibly this one too. ill try to get a better one soon.
well you're running pro comps though. interco tires are skinnier than almost every other tire brand... i wonder how a 33x12.50 INTERCO tire will fit on my rims? it might have minimal rubbing? i've no idea... Superswamper tires are 20% off with free shipping so... im really considering it.
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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where are you getting them 20% off with free shipping???
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 08:07 AM
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dude, the 33x12.50 TSL radials (said radial, but it was a Super Swamper SSR) that my buddy got on his '97 ford 4x4 were effing HUGE

they were very very wide, (we measured TREAD WIDTH to be 12 3/4" )

as 4crawler pointed out there is a difference between section width and tread width, the 33x10.50 TSL radials are just about as wide as any other 33x10.50 tire.

and i've heard bad things about the Trxus M/T tires, wearing out VERY VERY quickly, but others have gotten lots of miles out of em.

if you're wanting a good tire for mud and street, you can't beat the BFG M/T's dude, either KM2's or a used set of KM1's.

personally i'm thinkin about getting a set of 33x12.50 street tires, and a set of 35" swampers LMAO

i'm just gonna have to deal with switchin em out all the time lol
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Old Jan 26, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by camo31"10.50"
dude, the 33x12.50 TSL radials (said radial, but it was a Super Swamper SSR) that my buddy got on his '97 ford 4x4 were effing HUGE

they were very very wide, (we measured TREAD WIDTH to be 12 3/4" )

as 4crawler pointed out there is a difference between section width and tread width, the 33x10.50 TSL radials are just about as wide as any other 33x10.50 tire.

and i've heard bad things about the Trxus M/T tires, wearing out VERY VERY quickly, but others have gotten lots of miles out of em.

if you're wanting a good tire for mud and street, you can't beat the BFG M/T's dude, either KM2's or a used set of KM1's.

personally i'm thinkin about getting a set of 33x12.50 street tires, and a set of 35" swampers LMAO

i'm just gonna have to deal with switchin em out all the time lol
I think im just gonna go with a set of 33x12.50 Goodyear wrangler Duratracs. but im not getting them till after my lift, and they're only 600 ish bucks.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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(sidetrack)where did you find duratracs for cheap? i got them for our cruiser in a 285-75-16 and they were 200 each at goodyear. i like them enough to put them on my truck instead of full on MTs.
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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 10:34 PM
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http://www.4wheelparts.com/Tires/Goo...n=GDY312020027

155 a tire.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 12:42 AM
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my 33's look skinny as hell for 12.5
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 06:25 AM
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do you have any pics?
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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crappy pics but you can kinda see how wide they are

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