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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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I need some advice on an '86 custom cab

I am now a proud owner of a 1986 Custom Cab. It has extremely low miles but the engine block is missing due to it "throwing a rod." I have the turbo unit and everything to reassemble it just no block. I have never had a turbo, and don't know much about them in Toyotas.

Is there any difference in the standard 1985 and up 22r block and a turbo 22r?

I do not plan on doing much if any modifications to the truck, just looking for a dependable truck.

Any advice would be great!

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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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I would assume they're the same but can't say for sure. I'm pretty sure the pre 85, and 85+ are the only two differn't types of 22r blocks.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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The 22RTE Turbo engine was based on the later model 22RE (short block /tall head). This is a similar but entirely different block and head. The block was drilled with different oil passages to accommodate the Turbo oil requirements. The cylinder head's combustion chamber had a different shape. The piston was dished. Advertised horsepower was 145. The factory set the boost at 5.5-6 pounds, but completely stock internals survived boosts of up to 17-22 pounds, with proper fuel injection modifications. http://www.toysport.com/technical%20...tech_notes.htm
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 04:28 AM
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Thanks for that link!

I am thinking about just making this truck a standard 22RE and not using the turbo unit. any problems with this idea??

I have the turbo, head, and what I belive is all of the pipes/manifolds.

I'm not that sure about the turbos. I would hate to get this all together and the turbo go out. I have had lots of luck with 22-REs in the past.........
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 05:20 AM
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The 22r-te engine is low compression, so without the turbo, it will suck. if you dont want the turbo, you're probably better off selling that engine and buying a 22re long block
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 07:00 AM
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x2 on the long block. or if you want power....
listen to the endless mob on here and, since i know someone will say it and i might as well be the first: drop a 3.4 in that thing.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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If it were me, I'd probably put together a turbo block, or build an RE block to handle the turbo. Not too much trouble- just a set of lower compression pistons.
Otherwise, putting an RE in may not work too well with the turbo's ECU.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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So I need a 22re wiring harness, manifold, and ECU to make a 22re work in my turbo truck?

thanks for the help on this.....
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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I don't know if the turbo really works, so I don't want to plan everything around a turbo........

I want a dependable setup.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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well if you want any kind of power in that thing WITHOUT the turbo..then you need atleast 22RE pistons...not the 22RE-T pistons because they have a lower compression thus resulting in less horsepower..

and you cant just use any 22RE block to work with the turbo..it HAS to be a turbo block..or what Toyota calls the "Lazer Block"..its basically the same but on the driverside of the block there is a cut out for oil for the turbo..without that i believe it would be quite a task making the turbo work right..lol


if it were me i would find a good used Lazer block..(with pistons and crank and all that)..i believe it would be easier..and then you wouldnt have to deal with the big A$$ hassle of changing wiring harnesses, ECU's..and all that other junk..

and since you dont know much about turbo's...you would DEFINATELY want to get a Lazer Block if you keep the turbo..that way you dont have to figure out how to adequily(spelling??) oil the turbo..

oh yea POST SOME DANG'D 'OL PICS OF THAT BEAST!!!!!!!
i LOVE the custom cabs!!!!!

*EDIT* just seen the pics..lol..that thing is in AMAZING CONDITION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

theres an '
84 custom cab with the 22r and 5spd about 30 miles from my town..its sittin on 36's too..lmao

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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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I hav decided to just put a standard 22RE in this turbo truck. Feel free to talk me out of this..........

Other than an EFI wiring harness. What do I need?????

Will the turbo 5 speed bolt up?

Thanks guys!!!!!
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Old Aug 16, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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5spd should bolt up no probs, efi wiring harness and ecu, and all the efi stuff, i dont think ur head will work on a 22-re, so ull need an entire 22-RE, good luck
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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I have been thinking of just putting in a 22r with aftermarket carb. I won't have to worry about the computer or harness will I????
What to do about the fuel pump?

Also kicking around the chevy 4.3. From what I can tell it will take about $2,000 in adapters and parts to make that work plus the motor and carb.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 11:25 AM
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Nice truck, I see that you are rather undecided as to what you want to do...I'm subscribing to this cuz I want to see where this will go.

Good find.
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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Yeah, I am at a loss......

I did find am 87 4runner that runs good that I can use for parts to switch everything over. I am going to look at it over the weekend. I sounds "too good to be true."

I'm not looking for a trail buggy or a mud slinger. Just something different. I have only seen 2 of these Custom cabs. This thing has only 45,000 on the odometer!!!! My goal now is to get it running and start the wish list!!

4" lift, 35's, 488(?) gears are in my thoughts.

Thanks!
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 07:23 AM
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Yep, too good to be true,

"runs good, motor only has 5,000 miles on it" means it cranks up, smokes, covered in oil, and mabey only has 50 miles LEFT!

"body is a little rough" means you can push your finger through the rust!

Search goes on...........
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 03:06 PM
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Going to look at a complete 22r, carb to oilpan for $200. Not sure if it is an early 22r.

If it is an 85+ I will get it. I figure I can rebuild it and use the carb set up and move over to EFI when I locate the parts.

Sure are hard to find one in all together!
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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I just saw a custom cab turbo driving on the freeway today. I never knew that the custom can was offered as a turbo. It had the red turbo decal on the tailgate & the EFI turbo badge behind the door. It was beat looking but still pretty cool.
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 04:37 PM
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NOOOOOO

GET A LAZER BLOCK AND GO WITH THE TURBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i swear you will hate yourself if you dont..

a 22r in my truck on 31's is SLOWWWW...

a 22R in THAT truck is gonna be even worse!!!!


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE go the turbo route..

you'll thank me for it one of these days..

wouldn't you like to be able to cruise at 75-80 on the freeway...

dont go with a 22r and you will..lmao
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Old Aug 27, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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go with the 22ret or chevy 4.3
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