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Old May 27, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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1986 22re-t can I bypass the turbo?

I have a blown turbo in my rig and can't afford 1700$ from LC Engineering to get a new one. What would it hurt if I took out the turbo and just ran exhaust back. What are the differences in the 22re and 22ret besides the obvious turbo? It is causing it to burn oil and lose power. What can I do???
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Old May 27, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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there's gotta be one cheaper than $1700! shop around man.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Lower compression..
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Old May 27, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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I have shopped around and I can't find anything anywhere for my rig. Would it hurt to just take it out?
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Old May 27, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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wow you suck at searching. I could build a complete 22rte for that much.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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You can't simply "take the turbo out" and run it as an N/A motor. The turbo motors have a much lower compression. You either need to take the turbo engine out, and do a complete N/A swap, or just fix the turbo. Either way will cost about the same.
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Old May 27, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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it won't run...

and it shouldn't be 1700 for a new turbo... worst comes to worst, grab an old one from a junk yard
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Old May 27, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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http://www.usedpartslive.com/live/1/.../Turbocharger/

this is what i found and i wasnt even looking for toyota turbos, googlit
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Old May 27, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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As much as it pains me to say, don't buy a used turbo. 98% of ALL Toyota turbos are cracked at the wastegate. It was a terrible design. Get an aftermarket Turbo, and pay the extra money to have it done right the first time.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by neilan
wow you suck at searching. I could build a complete 22rte for that much.

Bull, seeing as how the truck is rare, only 6% have the turbo you won't build it that cheap.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mattaway
there's gotta be one cheaper than $1700! shop around man.
Howdy, Al, I did that when I had the 86 turbo toy with the same problem, swapped the exaust manifold, and the air filter box, from a regular 22r and plugged some lines, and yes the truck ran, but it felt like running on 1 cyl. nobody wanted to rebuild my turbo, they said the housing was toasted. I found a rebuilded one, i think i paid $600, that's an expensive part but man it worth every single penny. so if your truck is good, besides the turbo, like mat said SHOP AROUND.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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It ran like that becuase the 22RTE is a low compression engine. It requires boost to run correctly.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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in order for the motor to be able to handle the boost that the turbo tries to cram into the cylinder it has to have dished/low compression pistons...
otherwise you would blow a head gasket... normal motors run anywheres to 9.0-10.0 compression with high power N/A motors having upwards of 12.0:1 compression... now a turbo'd or S/C'd motors run at a much more high air volume compression of around 7.0-8.0:1 compression...
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Ive heard something about being able to use a supra turbo. Not sure it is true though
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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dont kno if you got this fixed already or not. but ebay item # 230348932222

is a complete turbo set up. you should check it out. only 152. plus 39 to ship. as of right now,.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by weaselman
dont kno if you got this fixed already or not. but ebay item # 230348932222

is a complete turbo set up. you should check it out. only 152. plus 39 to ship. as of right now,.
dayamn, that's a good deal!

too bad I changed my mind about an RET build...

lol
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 02:56 PM
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You should be able to run the engine with no turbo, but it will be a slug and obviously won't be ideal.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt Driver
You should be able to run the engine with no turbo, but it will be a slug and obviously won't be ideal.
see that's what I would think...

it would just be like dropping the compression, a lot... and you'd probably have almost no power... so it'll be like a stock RE lol, but no really, IMHO, I would think that it IS possible, but the only problem is you would then have to get another exhaust manifold, get the rest of the intake piping, and so on and so forth... it might be easier just to find a cheaper turbo to bolt in as a replacement...


can't you just have your old one rebuilt, assuming the casing or whatever isn't cracked? how much could that run?

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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Hey bleeder, your next post is going to break 4000.

Power and torque would actually be worse than a stock RE because of the lower compression.

The most common price I see for a rebuild is around $250 + shipping. I would also investigate the possibility of upgrading/adapting a CT26 from a Supra or MR2.
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Old Jun 14, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt Driver
Hey bleeder, your next post is going to break 4000.
yay, 4001

4000 on my own 22re rebuild thread, lol

thanks for noticing! I'm the 51st highest poster

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