turbo or super charged 22re
#1
turbo or super charged 22re
i was wondering if any one has a super charged 22re nad if you think its better than a turbo sense you have a constant boost and don't really have to rebuild them after a couple years?
#2
Turbo is factory. Supercharger is expensive and it takes power to make power.
That being said, I think I would go supercharger because it is more on demand than turbo (generally speaking).
Factory turbo parts can be found for fairly cheap though.
That being said, I think I would go supercharger because it is more on demand than turbo (generally speaking).
Factory turbo parts can be found for fairly cheap though.
#3
if i went turbo i would have to do wireing and my compression is to high but the kits at LCE are both 3000 bucks............and its a instant 64hp gain
Last edited by NastyNate71; Nov 11, 2008 at 07:27 PM.
#5
I ran both both types of forced induction on a 1994 22RE 4x4 5 Speed.
The Camden supercharger that LCE uses in their kit is very old technology, with no bypass valve, like the Eaton/Magnacharger (TRD) does in Tacomas. This lack of bypass valve and the straight cut of the lobes gives it terrible gas mileage. I saw easily as low as 12mpg with the supercharger. A bit of an easier install, though, than the turbo, and great low-end torque.
The turbo, with the intercooler, actually improved my combined city/highway gas mileage by about 2 mpg so I was getting about 23-25 mpg. It also pulled way harder at any comparative boost level to the supercharger, probably due to the lack of intake air temps. Install necessitated a local welder to attach the downpipe and wastegate pipe to the exhaust. A much more involved install with much better results. I would recommend getting the CNC'd manifold LCE kit over their tubular-style one.
For either, you will have to provide more fuel and be able to retard the timing at anything over about 3-4 psi, at least that's how it was for my truck. It's a lot of money to spend for only 3-4 psi run off of the factory computer.
I would suggest LCE's MAF conversion from the later Tacoma 4 cylinders in conjunction with URD's "5th Injector" kit. This will allow you to control fuel and timing. You will need a hi-flow fuel pump as well as a way to monitor the Air/Fuel Ratio.
You could also go the stand-alone engine management route, but that requires tuning at a pretty complex level.
It's definitely worth it. Boost puts a smile on my face every time.
The Camden supercharger that LCE uses in their kit is very old technology, with no bypass valve, like the Eaton/Magnacharger (TRD) does in Tacomas. This lack of bypass valve and the straight cut of the lobes gives it terrible gas mileage. I saw easily as low as 12mpg with the supercharger. A bit of an easier install, though, than the turbo, and great low-end torque.
The turbo, with the intercooler, actually improved my combined city/highway gas mileage by about 2 mpg so I was getting about 23-25 mpg. It also pulled way harder at any comparative boost level to the supercharger, probably due to the lack of intake air temps. Install necessitated a local welder to attach the downpipe and wastegate pipe to the exhaust. A much more involved install with much better results. I would recommend getting the CNC'd manifold LCE kit over their tubular-style one.
For either, you will have to provide more fuel and be able to retard the timing at anything over about 3-4 psi, at least that's how it was for my truck. It's a lot of money to spend for only 3-4 psi run off of the factory computer.
I would suggest LCE's MAF conversion from the later Tacoma 4 cylinders in conjunction with URD's "5th Injector" kit. This will allow you to control fuel and timing. You will need a hi-flow fuel pump as well as a way to monitor the Air/Fuel Ratio.
You could also go the stand-alone engine management route, but that requires tuning at a pretty complex level.
It's definitely worth it. Boost puts a smile on my face every time.
#7
I have a friend who bought a eaton supercharger off of a t bird supercoupe and built a manifold to bolt it on too
he is using supra injectors and maf and a stand alone mega squirt system he built using there kit. I think he is using a supra fuel pump as well.
it is all in an 84 celica
he is using supra injectors and maf and a stand alone mega squirt system he built using there kit. I think he is using a supra fuel pump as well.
it is all in an 84 celica
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