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Probably dumb, but I just got a great deal on some 40s, what will I break?

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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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Probably dumb, but I just got a great deal on some 40s, what will I break?

I know running these tires may not be the best idea, so they might not last long, but I just got a great deal, $400, on a set of 40x17 on 15" 3.5" back spaced rims. My suspension is fine for tires this size, especially after all the rust trimming I did. What I'm concerned about is how long I can get out of the rest of the truck. Will standard crossover steering be enough, or will I need hydro assist to turn these huge tires? I know 5.29s are a must, so no driving until I get those installed. Should I run em, or sell em for some 35s, as originally planned on?
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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I would sell them and buy 35s, the 40s will kill the drivetrain.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Sell them. Too big imho...
Just because it's a good deal doesn't mean you have to buy them. Just plain impulsive...
Post them on www.craigslist.com maybe someone is looking for bigger tires has a smaller set you can trade for you never know.

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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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unless you got beefed up inner axles / sell the 40''s.
good deal though probably make a few hundred dollars off those.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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the question is what kind of 40's and what quality? Chances are good that the seller marked them down for a reason. You may end up with something you can't sell easily.

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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Sell. Overkill, unless you got Dana 60s and a V8! I don't think I would more then 35's on anything.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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You will need Longfields, Dual Cases, 5.29's, ARP Studs, Hydro Assist and HighSteer. If you plan on just driving it down the street the 5.29's will do.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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trade for 37s. 37s are the perfect size for a yota.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by oldgold3vze
I know running these tires may not be the best idea, so they might not last long, but I just got a great deal, $400, on a set of 40x17 on 15" 3.5" back spaced rims. My suspension is fine for tires this size, especially after all the rust trimming I did. What I'm concerned about is how long I can get out of the rest of the truck. Will standard crossover steering be enough, or will I need hydro assist to turn these huge tires? I know 5.29s are a must, so no driving until I get those installed. Should I run em, or sell em for some 35s, as originally planned on?
RUN THEM!!!! i have a 84 with 39.5x15 TSL's with stock 4.10s, stock axles, and stock case. i have been running it this way until i can afford the 5.29's and v-6 swap but it does pretty good, not fast by anymeans but i can hit 60 in 3rd and cruise down the highway, and 1st low still works for what i do, not many rocks up here.

as for steering i have never had a problem with the stock TG kit

It is nice to have the same pounds per square inch as a 800CC four wheeler!!!!

i love mine and can run 2psi all the way around, even on the street!

and remember at the low pressures a 40 isnt really 40. my 39.5's measure in at 37.8" at 2 psi and little bulge on the bottom.

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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ryantowry_81
RUN THEM!!!! i have a 84 with 39.5x15 TSL's with stock 4.10s, stock axles, and stock case. i have been running it this way until i can afford the 5.29's and v-6 swap but it does pretty good, not fast by anymeans but i can hit 60 in 3rd and cruise down the highway, and 1st low still works for what i do, not many rocks up here.

as for steering i have never had a problem with the stock TG kit

It is nice to have the same pounds per square inch as a 800CC four wheeler!!!!

i love mine and can run 2psi all the way around, even on the street!

and remember at the low pressures a 40 isnt really 40. my 39.5's measure in at 37.8" at 2 psi and little bulge on the bottom.
Now that's the kind of answer I needed to hear! I already have dual cases, Hy steer and 5.29s are coming very soon, and I'm very light on the skinny pedal, so I'll do the longs when I break a birf. I think I'm gonna at least give em a try. If it doesn't work out, I'll sell em and get some 35s.

Thanks for the helpful advise.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by oldgold3vze
Now that's the kind of answer I needed to hear! I already have dual cases, Hy steer and 5.29s are coming very soon, and I'm very light on the skinny pedal, so I'll do the longs when I break a birf. I think I'm gonna at least give em a try. If it doesn't work out, I'll sell em and get some 35s.

Thanks for the helpful advise.
your welcome.

I probably am preaching to the coir but on mine i had to adjust my steering stops in to keep it from hillint the leafs, this also helps the longevity of the birf's. I assume you will have to do the same. i would be curious to see what your tires actually measure out to when you get them mounted and see how low a pressure you can go! like i said before i run 2psi and the side walls barely bulge on my bias tsl's
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 09:05 AM
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Mounted em up last night just to see what I'll be dealing with as far as fit goes. I definitely need to swap in my 89 rear axle for the extra width. Currently, the rear leaf springs are about 3/4" from the tire sidewall. For the front, I have no problem trimming my fenders, or just removing them, and I'm going to build a drop/forward mount hanger to get just a little more firewall clearance. I've decided to build around these tires and see what happens. I know I have a long way to go, but they are so burly, and that's what I want out of my truck. Poser shots...



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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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This summer we worked on getting 40's to fit on basically the same body you have. Some firewall work and rear fender work will probably need to be done.

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f88/...runner-136170/
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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looks good

here is the only pic i have of mine with 39.5 tsl's:


I did RUF's and moved the axle forward 3.5" and didn't have to do any fire wall mods other than trimming the seam but that was just to remove a sharp edge.

You might want to look into a tire groover for those tires. if you cut the center in about 1" incriments then they will work twice as good! my buddy had those for a while and we did it to his and worked much better.

I will try and get better pics this weekend for fender cutting ideas
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:01 AM
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I'd say longs and arp hub studs would be very important. 5.29 gearing would be nice too.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:14 AM
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Tub the firewall to the body mount and tub the rear fender well and run them. Buy some Longfields and build your axle and you'll be fine. I got 39.5 Iroks now and when they wear out Ill be going to 42 Iroks.

Nay sayers are the ones that have little tires.

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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit
Nay sayers are the ones that have little tires.

Hey I have little tires (31"). My buddy just put brand new 33's on his 82 longbed. I'm so jealous! Man my truck looks like s***! with these worn out 31's! Shoot, I'll be content with 33's... I'm kinda conservative.
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:14 PM
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damn that thing looks crazy oldgold! im with xtraslow i dont wanna go huge, 36 is probly my limit
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Old Oct 30, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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damn that thing looks crazy oldgold! im with xtraslow i dont wanna go huge, 36 is probly my limit
you know i used to swear by my 31x11.5 ltb's until i got a really good deal on the 39.5's (600 brand new!!!!) and now would not go back!!!! i mean when you put the same pressure on the ground as a big four wheeler it makes a difference!!!! also i measured and i have the better ground clearance under the diff in my truck as a fulsize sterling w/ 44 boggers!!!!
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by georgiayota
I would sell them and buy 35s, the 40s will kill the drivetrain.
Originally Posted by 934rnr
Sell them. Too big imho...
Just because it's a good deal doesn't mean you have to buy them. Just plain impulsive...
Post them on www.craigslist.com maybe someone is looking for bigger tires has a smaller set you can trade for you never know.
Originally Posted by stagger_lee
Sell. Overkill, unless you got Dana 60s and a V8! I don't think I would more then 35's on anything.
Originally Posted by 85toy
trade for 37s. 37s are the perfect size for a yota.








Yup, 40's are WAY too much tire for a Toyota axle or overkill

40's are great, but you will have to work to make them fit and dish out some $$$ to make sure the front axle holds together (ARP studs, Longfields, Hub gears, Hydro assist, etc...........)
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