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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 06:31 AM
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Clutch/flywheel question

So I shot from the hip when purchasing parts to swap my motor and figured I may as well swap the clutch flywheel and pressure plate while the motor was out of the truck. So I bought an excedy kit off of EBAY thinking I would be set. I looked at the kit again today for no reason other then boredom and noticed that it says the flywheel is only good for 89-95 2wd trucks and 89-92 4wd. I have a 94 4wd truck, but the motor and tranny I am using came from an 87. I assume then that the kit will work but before I install it I would like to know if I am correct.

Oh, and now that I think about it is there anything special I need to do to swap the older transmission into the truck or should everything bolt up?

Thanks for any info
Jeremy

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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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So I shot from the hip when purchasing parts to swap my motor and figured I may as well swap the clutch flywheel and pressure plate while the motor was out of the truck. So I bought an excedy kit off of EBAY thinking I would be set. I looked at the kit again today for no reason other then boredom and noticed that it says the flywheel is only good for 89-95 2wd trucks and 89-92 4wd. I have a 94 4wd truck, but the motor and tranny I am using came from an 87. I assume then that the kit will work but before I install it I would like to know if I am correct.

Oh, and now that I think about it is there anything special I need to do to swap the older transmission into the truck or should everything bolt up?

Thanks for any info
Jeremy
I don't have any answers to your specific questions however what you are doing is illegal and you're opening yourself up to a possible $2500.00 fine.



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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:22 PM
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Fred. What is illegal about what he wants to do?

not trying to be a jerk or anything, but an honest question.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Please tell me what he is doing that is illegal. I would really like to know.

Im assuming you are running a 22re (or possibly a 22r), what transmission though?
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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I'd be curious what's illegal as well.?
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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Yeah? Its illegal to put the wrong parts on a vehicle?
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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I'd be curious what's illegal as well.?
It's illegal to put an engine from an older model year into a newer model year vehicle. EPA, emissions, etc.

You simply can't do that.





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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FredTJ
It's illegal to put an engine from an older model year into a newer model year vehicle. EPA, emissions, etc.

You simply can't do that.





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Huh...never new that, sorta makes sense though, but does it matter if its the same engine?
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Huh...never new that, sorta makes sense though, but does it matter if its the same engine?
Doesn't matter.
If you think about it for more than a nano second or two, you'll realize that the emission on the '94 engine is a lot less than that on the older one.




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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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Does that make it a state by state law? Vt doesn't test emissions upon inspection (at least on my 89)

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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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Does that make it a state by state law? Vt doesn't test emissions upon inspection (at least on my 89)
NO, it has nothing to do with a state testing or not.
IT IS A FEDERAL, EPA, LAW





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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 06:15 PM
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thanks fred
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 06:21 AM
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I as well thought that was a state by state law. I am also not worried though because my dad does NY state inspections for me and at the same time on the 94 it is just a safety inspection so they only check out lights, brakes and whatnot. So thank you for the warning, and Ill watch my back for the legal problems I may run into.

Back to the original issue, it is a 22re motor, I just looked at the old and new flywheel side by side and did not see any real difference, Im going to examine the clutch and flywheel tonight, what should I look for in order to tell if they are the same or different. Thanks
Jeremy
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jddelrosso
I as well thought that was a state by state law. I am also not worried though because my dad does NY state inspections for me and at the same time on the 94 it is just a safety inspection so they only check out lights, brakes and whatnot. So thank you for the warning, and Ill watch my back for the legal problems I may run into.

Back to the original issue, it is a 22re motor, I just looked at the old and new flywheel side by side and did not see any real difference, Im going to examine the clutch and flywheel tonight, what should I look for in order to tell if they are the same or different. Thanks
Jeremy
Also, if you ever sell the vehicle you could have a problem.....




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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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I doubt it matters but I am going to use the entire intake from the newer truck anyway, which includes the egr system...

again, I doubt that matters

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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 09:44 PM
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a 22re is a 22re there is little to nothing they changed on the blocks the only difference u might have is the vac lines and or some plugs and as far as the clutch and flywheel are concerned im pretty sure its all the same good luck bro
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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thanks, I hope you are right.

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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Fred. How are they able to tell? Do they go off the engine case numbers? As far as i knew, as long as the engine is in the same family. and has the same evap system it should be ok. I would think a 22re swapped with a 22re should be just fine. especially if its an older engine into a newer vehicle, that older/"dirtier" engine is going to be held to the newer/higher/cleaner emissions standard of the newer model vehicle.

again, im no expert on the issue. but i do have a friend who is a certified CA smog tech and i think this might be a question ill ask him.
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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Alot of what we do is not legal. Who cares? The monkeys at the inspection place won't know the difference from a 22re from 87 and a 22re from 94...
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