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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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manual locking hub options.

im in the market for some hubs.. ive done some looking around on here.. seen alot about about the typical hubs.. warn and what not.. my question being will hubs from any year 95 or older fit? im pretty sure they do but wanted to make sure.. also my boss at work has some domestic hubs on the shelf.. i think there dodge or ford. what other makes will bolt up to my baby?
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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You need the hubs from an IFS rig. 86-95 IFS rigs. I'd go Aisin (I did) because the Warn's just aren't as strong. The older rigs manual hubs will not work although they look similar. Prices have dropped a lot on manual hubs since I got mine but man do they save wear and tear on the front of the truck.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
You need the hubs from an IFS rig. 86-95 IFS rigs. I'd go Aisin (I did) because the Warn's just aren't as strong. The older rigs manual hubs will not work although they look similar. Prices have dropped a lot on manual hubs since I got mine but man do they save wear and tear on the front of the truck.
x2 go with AISIN'S

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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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I have an 87 4runner and put a set of 88 Aisin hubs on it. By far the best mod I had done to it to that point. and Yes stay with the Aisins they are tough to beat.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
You need the hubs from an IFS rig. 86-95 IFS rigs. I'd go Aisin (I did) because the Warn's just aren't as strong. The older rigs manual hubs will not work although they look similar. Prices have dropped a lot on manual hubs since I got mine but man do they save wear and tear on the front of the truck.
thanks.. gives me more to go on.. i figured SAS hubs wernt going to work.. guess i should be more spacific. as far as wear and tear thats why im looking. i need new CV shafts and i want them to last. so before i do them up i want new hubs. how about hubs from a trooper? i kinda feel like a dork asking questions like this. but when you have a junkyard at your disposal free parts are king. and of the hundreds of cars all the toyotas have been stripped to nothing.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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There is seller on ebay that usually has hubs for $40.00 each:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ASIAN...QQcmdZViewItem

I bought one for spare for my '81 from him and he shipped in a few days...

Check the spline count on the Trooper, though they are Aisin, I think they are different...

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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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honestly people.. if you cant give me any kind of response to my question then why respond.. every time i ask something on here people just tell me someones web page or company to go buy something from.. any tard with Google can figure something like that out.. i mean no disrespect. but i would expect the number of members on here and the collective of info. someone could do something other then tell me a company to buy things from..
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jtlinna3vze
1. my question being will hubs from any year 95 or older fit? im pretty sure they do but wanted to make sure?

2. also my boss at work has some domestic hubs on the shelf.. i think there dodge or ford. what other makes will bolt up to my baby?
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Answer to question 1:

Originally Posted by Victor
You need the hubs from an IFS rig. 86-95 IFS rigs. I'd go Aisin (I did) because the Warn's just aren't as strong. The older rigs manual hubs will not work although they look similar. Prices have dropped a lot on manual hubs since I got mine but man do they save wear and tear on the front of the truck.
IFS are 27 spline SFA are 30 spline. They are not interchangeable but some use the same parts.

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No, you want manual hubs that work on a Toyota IFS. Your options are Aisin (OEM), new, used or refurbished or WARN. I'm sure there are other useless aftermarket options.

Your best bet are the Aisin OEM, 1986-1995 Aisin manual hubs.

Originally Posted by jtlinna3vze
honestly people.. if you cant give me any kind of response to my question then why respond.. every time i ask something on here people just tell me someones web page or company to go buy something from.. any tard with Google can figure something like that out.. i mean no disrespect. but i would expect the number of members on here and the collective of info. someone could do something other then tell me a company to buy things from..
Your first question was promptly and succinctly answered and "any tard with Google" could have figured out that you needed Toyota manual hubs and not Ford or Dodge.

I could care less if you buy from me, but you asked for opinions and information and were given both in several nice and informative replies. Considering your "no disrespect" reply to those that offered their help I wouldn't expect much in the future when you ask questions unless you start actually reading the replies and taking heed.

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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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I agree with WABBIT...Your questions were answered, and they were answered respectfully. Personally, I would have said "search" since this has been covered 100,000 times. But you can use 86-95 IFS locking Hubs. Most people like the OEM AISINs better. I just sold a set and I run the WARNs. I have had no problems with them, and I wheel it on 36s. You shoudl be fine with whateve r you choose..but OEM is the way to go here.
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 04:05 PM
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people told me what i COULD use not what i couldn't. that is until you called me a tard. which i deserved. but now i know i cant use them.. probably a crappy why to start my membership here.. i was being a >&@%^! guys. i had asked before about ford exploder springs working on my rig. i was just told about where to buy lift kits and OME and stuff. can you kind feel where im coming from? just a tiny bit?
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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Sit back and take a deep breath, now lets try to be civil. I think you gotten some decent replies and options. You asked what's preferred, got an answer. You've also gotten some options to buy at a reasonable price. you've even been told what years and the fact that it must be an ifs. Now what you are looking for is a junkyard alternative for for a manual hub from a different vehicle to fit your 4Runner. There could be a chance that someone here has investigated the options, but seeing how you have a yard in your back pocket. Why not take one off a brand X rig and see if it will fit a Yota in the yard. Nothing lost but some time and if you find one that works you could share that info here. A search here would have shown the differences in solid vs ifs and auto as well as suzuki. Now let's play nice.



Geeze you guys post fast, I'm limited to the hunt and peck method.

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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jtlinna3vze
honestly people.. if you cant give me any kind of response to my question then why respond.. every time i ask something on here people just tell me someones web page or company to go buy something from.. any tard with Google can figure something like that out.. i mean no disrespect. but i would expect the number of members on here and the collective of info. someone could do something other then tell me a company to buy things from..
Ok man people where trying helpful, 86-95 is what your looking for IFS no hubs off of solid axles and no ford or dodge hubs
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Ok guys take it easy JTlinna's new here... and sometimes we can be a little "short" or "off-tangent" with our answers.
As others have said so far as manual hubs go your only real choice is Aisins they are about the strongest manual hub out there for anything let alone toyotas... the Warns are available but they are just not as good and you can get a good set of Aisin re-builds for about the cost of a set of warns.

If parts availability is a concern Isuzu, Mitsubishi, Suzuki, also used Aisin hubs in their 4x4s and many of the parts are interchangeable between the different "makes".
You mentioned the Isuzu Trooper the hubs from this one are not an option because they used a shorter hub 'body" then all the all the others so for this one the only transferable parts would be the dial and mounting bolts.
For the other ones the spline count needs to be the same as the toyota factory half shafts 27 for the IFS and 30 for the SFA (see wabbits post for more info)

Here's alink for you to a tech section article on converting to Aisins, lots of good info should answer most of your questions https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f128...4runner-76353/

Finally lets remeber that flaming and name calling are'nt allowed here...

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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jtlinna3vze
honestly people.. if you cant give me any kind of response to my question then why respond.. every time i ask something on here people just tell me someones web page or company to go buy something from.. any tard with Google can figure something like that out.. i mean no disrespect. but i would expect the number of members on here and the collective of info. someone could do something other then tell me a company to buy things from..
Ok here you go. Don't get Warn or Milemarker hubs they aren't as strong as the stock hubs. You can also rebuild your current hubs if they are falling apart or broken. You will need hubs for any 86-95 pickup because if they are off a solid axle rig the spline count on the locking mechanism is different and will not fit your cv ends. I'm not going to tell you where to buy them, that's up to you to decide. What else do you need to know? And if you need to know how to fit other types of springs (exploder etc) you'd best get yourself a welder and learn how to use it, because if it's not designed for your rig, chances are you will have to weld spring hangers on.

Oh, and if you decide to join Pirate4x4.com , I wouldn't reccomend coming across like that because they'll just ban you lol.

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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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i think this is a big learning lesson for me.. ill play nice guys.. and yes i am new here so i may need to be put in my place from time to time.. from now on ill stick to one question at a time not twelve at once.. i dont know everything.. thats why im here.. so i hope people will look at this as a ( he learnd he now knows) type of deals.. i know i offended some of you.. for this i opolgise.. and to wabfab.. i dont have anything againts your products.. as a matter a fact.. the way things are looking i may just have to get a few things from you.. if i didnt &^#^#^% you off enough.. i was just having a bad day.. and flew off the deep end.. went to cut my rotors and ended up having to replace cracked pads and wheel bearings. i know this isnt anyones fault. sorry..
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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aslo to everyone who posted. thanks for the replys.. positive or not.. they were still helpfull..
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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No worries guy, I know waht you mean about starting what is supposed to be a little job and having to replace a whole lot more...

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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 01:20 PM
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And if you need to know how to fit other types of springs (exploder etc) you'd best get yourself a welder and learn how to use it, because if it's not designed for your rig, chances are you will have to weld spring hangers on.

thanks for the input.. welding isnt a problem.. mig tig or arc i got it covered. but i shouldnt of said anything about it on this thread.. not enough info.. i could make hangers.. but i dont know what id do with hangers and two coil springs.. lol.. but you didnt know.. as i said.. not enough info..
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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i bought some Superwinch manual hubs. quality is so-so, but they were cheep and new. it would be nice to have original Aisin hubs, but for the type of use i need the truck for the Superwinch hubs should work fine.

i don't really get the thinking that Aisins are best because that's what Toyota chose to use(even though they may well be). look at all the other parts we replace, that Toyota also used as OEM. heck, some of the rock crawlers have so many aftermarket parts , they aren't even 1/2 Toy anymore. but their owners are hard core Toyota fans who think anything else is junk.

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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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try and find a set off a 87 4runner but warns seem to take abuse better
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