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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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Advice On Saggy Rear

Hi this is my first post and I was hoping to get some advice and opinions. I have done a ton of searching for the last couple months trying to get some answers.

I have a 95 4runner and would like to use it for a bit of 4X4ing, camping and hauling mountain bikes up the mountain here in western Washington.

At the moment it is bone stock except for taking off the running boards. I would first like to fix the rear and have read about the downey coils. They seem to come available in the stock height and also with a 1.5 option that will give abit more height in the rear. This would help since I often have a bike rack that is about 80pounds with four 50 pound downhill bikes on it. I've read about this on Toyota Offroad. Link-
http://toyota.offroad.com/toyota/Sus...tegoryId=11288
Sounds good but then he says that new shocks are a good idea then all kinds of other mods are nessasry. Also the stiffer torsion bars. Is this nessasary? Any advice will be very appriciated.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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If you just wanna return it to stock or have a slight life some new coils int he rear will help. Downey makes some I think as do others.

You should replace your shocks too b/c it will help the ride alot, if they havent been replaced in 50k or so its time.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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I own a 1990 4runner and actually came in from the garage about 20 min ago from correcting my sagging rear-end. I picked up a set of Pro-comp coilsfro m this website for only $98 http://www.car-stuff.com/mmparts/toy...l_springs.html They dont only correct the sagging but lift your rear-end up an additional 1.5 inches past stock. It looks awesome and was cheat and easy. I also changed the rear shocks to skyjacker shocks but since these springs add so much extra lift make sure you get the one for a truck with a 2 inch lift. It added a lot of travel for my rear suspension. The post at the bottom is what I used to install the springs. It was pretty simple.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...runner-101903/ Good Luck
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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I Like My Downey
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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I am also looking at the Old Man Emu kits and it seems like it would be easier because I get everything i am going to need. I am new to working on trucks and it seems like every thing I find to use something else won't work or will need to be changed. Any other kits or shocks and coils that will work best.

Another question when measuring the distance between rim and fender to see if my t bar was cranked by the previous owner does the truck need to be off the ground. On the ground now it's at 14.5" between rim and fender front and 12.5 rear.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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i had mine re-arched at a spring shop.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tortis
i had mine re-arched at a spring shop.
Thats only gonna work on the trucks and 86-89 runners.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Have you been to the dealership lately? I would have them run your vin or look it up yourself to see if you have any recalls? There were some that had rear springs involved. I'm pretty sure it was third gens only. But yours might be right on the edge. If not I would just get a set of OME's. Good luck! And welcome fellow Washintonian!
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Thanks frodin1. Good idea.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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i strongly recommend the OME setups.
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by yotasavg
i strongly recommend the OME setups.
I just sent a pm to Strap22 regarding the OME 2" kit.
You must have had good results. Did you install it yourself?
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fattirerider
I just sent a pm to Strap22 regarding the OME 2" kit.
You must have had good results. Did you install it yourself?
ya i did it at home.

i didn't order from strap, but in hindsight i wish i did. just a better deal IMO.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by CJM
Thats only gonna work on the trucks and 86-89 runners.
yep, my mistake. sorry
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 07:59 AM
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i got a set of Moog coils that were OEM and have started to sag after like 2 months. If i did it again i would get like 1.5" lift. So maybe go with the OME
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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I've got a set of Downey HD coils sitting in my garage I'll sell ya cheap. I don't have the other brackets or the extended brake line but they'd be super easy to make yourself.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by UKMyers
I've got a set of Downey HD coils sitting in my garage I'll sell ya cheap. I don't have the other brackets or the extended brake line but they'd be super easy to make yourself.
I bought a set of the Downey OE height coils used and order the extra hardware from Downey. When I bought them, I didn't know they were the OE coils. Hence, I didn't need the extra hardware.

So, if you need that, I've got a spare unused kit for sale.

To answer the OP question, I really like my Downey coils. They fixed the rear end sag without having to crank the front coils. At the same time, I put in a set of Bilsteins. Now my truck feels solid and nicely planted and tows my boat much better
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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So if I go with the OME kit and have close to a 2" lift will I need a Panhard Drop Bracket?

For those that have installed them what is needed to do it and what are the advantages?

Are there any other mods I will need to do. Longer brake hoses etc?
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fattirerider
So if I go with the OME kit and have close to a 2" lift will I need a Panhard Drop Bracket?

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Yes, though that's a pretty silly way to "fix" the problem.
You don't want to drop the frame end, you want to raise the axle end.
Someone (can't remember who off the top of my head) makes a bracket that raises the frame end.
This is the correct way for proper rear RC/MC geometry.




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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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Yes, though that's a pretty silly way to "fix" the problem.
You don't want to drop the frame end, you want to raise the axle end.
Someone (can't remember who off the top of my head) makes a bracket that raises the frame end.
This is the correct way for proper rear RC/MC geometry.




Fred

Ok I asked Jacque at trdparts4u and that is what he suggested for the OME kit. In this case if you or someone else could tell me what I need and who makes them would be awsome.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FredTJ
Yes, though that's a pretty silly way to "fix" the problem.
You don't want to drop the frame end, you want to raise the axle end.
Someone (can't remember who off the top of my head) makes a bracket that raises the frame end.
This is the correct way for proper rear RC/MC geometry.




Fred
All Pro off road makes the panhard braket that bolts to the axle end no the frame end.
http://www.allprooffroad.com/index.p...sk=view&id=122
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