New EGR valve + code 71. what gives?
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New EGR valve + code 71. what gives?
I just installed the new engine and EGR valve along with a few other things and i'm getting the EGR malfunction code 71. What gives???
#3
Are the hoses hooked to the right places, they all look the same.
FSM EGR page for reference if your not sure:http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...77exhaustg.pdf
FSM EGR page for reference if your not sure:http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...77exhaustg.pdf
Last edited by MudHippy; Jul 17, 2007 at 04:47 PM.
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I certainly have obtained mastery in defending MY engine against it's deleterious effects and troublesome codes.
Overall it's a pretty simple system though, even if you have to deal with keeping it in working order. Most malfuntioning EGRs require only cleaning the valve parts or tending to the rubber hoses from what I've gathered.
Overall it's a pretty simple system though, even if you have to deal with keeping it in working order. Most malfuntioning EGRs require only cleaning the valve parts or tending to the rubber hoses from what I've gathered.
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no sir, i wasn't aware it could be tested...tell me more
already a step ahead of ya, as i finished the Y-pipe mod a few days ago
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...y-turn-119799/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...y-turn-119799/
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I don't think the 3VZE has one. Just the EGR Valve, EGR Vacuum Modulator, Vacuum Switching Valve for EGR, and several vacuum lines ran between them and the throttle body. The ECM only actuates the VSV in accordance with the readings it gets from the Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor to start/stop the flow of exhaust gasses through the EGR valve and into the Plenum Chamber. The Vacuum Modulator adjusts the rate of that flow.

I suspect that the Oxygen Sensor is what determines whether or not the code 71 gets tripped. My guess, since I don't get that code with no EGR valve, is that the valve isn't closing when it should. Since it's new(can't be needing cleaned), that leaves improper installation/setup as the most likely scenario. VACUUM LEAK(HOSE or GASKET) or VACUUM HOSE ROUTED INCORRECTLY(PLUGGED IN THE WRONG PLACE).
Is the Vacuum Modulator new? (I was gonna assume it, but...)

I suspect that the Oxygen Sensor is what determines whether or not the code 71 gets tripped. My guess, since I don't get that code with no EGR valve, is that the valve isn't closing when it should. Since it's new(can't be needing cleaned), that leaves improper installation/setup as the most likely scenario. VACUUM LEAK(HOSE or GASKET) or VACUUM HOSE ROUTED INCORRECTLY(PLUGGED IN THE WRONG PLACE).
Is the Vacuum Modulator new? (I was gonna assume it, but...)
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CA (and maybe some other) models have the sensors. I checked on that long time 'go.
I'm pretty sure the modulator is not repairable. I've a used one that does work...would sell for a couple bucks, if you wanted it.
(BTW, if you don't have the sensor, the hole should be plugged)
I'm pretty sure the modulator is not repairable. I've a used one that does work...would sell for a couple bucks, if you wanted it.
(BTW, if you don't have the sensor, the hole should be plugged)
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CA (and maybe some other) models have the sensors. I checked on that long time 'go.
I'm pretty sure the modulator is not repairable. I've a used one that does work...would sell for a couple bucks, if you wanted it.
(BTW, if you don't have the sensor, the hole should be plugged)
I'm pretty sure the modulator is not repairable. I've a used one that does work...would sell for a couple bucks, if you wanted it.
(BTW, if you don't have the sensor, the hole should be plugged)
Testing the vacuum modulator seems like alot of work, I'd probably take the one you know is good for a few dollas just to save me some headache.
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Go ahead and check the filter first. It's probably fine, but it's easy enough. The test on EG2-150 of the FSM is pretty simple. If it fails that, then it's bad. Blow off the vacuum gauge test....it is a pain. Unless, you're really dedicated and have a gauge.??
The gas temp sensor measures the temperature of the exhaust gases. When EGR valve opens, the temp increases, the resistance in the sensor decreases and the voltage drops. Then, the ECU knows the valve is functioning.
I've got a stash of EGR info from past and recent reading. Here's some for your stimulation: http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h32.pdf
The gas temp sensor measures the temperature of the exhaust gases. When EGR valve opens, the temp increases, the resistance in the sensor decreases and the voltage drops. Then, the ECU knows the valve is functioning.
I've got a stash of EGR info from past and recent reading. Here's some for your stimulation: http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h32.pdf
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i'm gonna take a guess and say the actual temp sender that screws into the side of the egr is bad. its got 160K miles on it so why not replace it right? also my truck is running lean in open loop according to a diagnostic i had run on the runner. apparently my coolant temp. sender is goin out too...
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You can test the EGR sensor first. They aren't really cheap.
Coolant temp sender or sensor? Makes a difference. Only the sensor will affect how it runs, of course.
Coolant temp sender or sensor? Makes a difference. Only the sensor will affect how it runs, of course.
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The gas temp sensor measures the temperature of the exhaust gases. When EGR valve opens, the temp increases, the resistance in the sensor decreases and the voltage drops. Then, the ECU knows the valve is functioning.
I've got a stash of EGR info from past and recent reading. Here's some for your stimulation: http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h32.pdf
I've got a stash of EGR info from past and recent reading. Here's some for your stimulation: http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h32.pdf
sorry, all learnin' is good learnin' truly.
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