95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners 4th gen pickups and 3rd gen 4Runners

The right tranny cooler location??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 8, 2007 | 06:00 PM
  #1  
emplusten's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Buffalo, NY area
The right tranny cooler location??

I have a 2002 4Runner (stock), and decided to put a transmission cooler in it. I bought a Hayden 677 (about 7.5 by 11 inches).

I got it installed fine, but I am second guessing my placement and am looking for opinions. I did a search and could not find a similar discussion on this topic.

First, the kit came with the plastic rods to connect the cooler in front of the AC condenser. I just did not like the idea of slipping sharp objects through two radiator like elements because of possibility of damage. Plus, I did not want to introduce an airflow issue by having the fan try to draw air through three sets of coolers - I did not want to introduce an engine cooling problem by restricting the airflow.

So I went with an alternate location. I elected to put it lower, in front of the cross brace that goes across the lower third of the radiator/condenser set up. It ends up being about three inches in front of the AC condenser. It would draw ambient air from the lower air intake area rather than the grill area. The picture at the bottom should show what I did.

So my questions are:
1. How effective is this cooling location?
2. Would I be better off stacking it on top of the radiator/condenser set up?
3. I used zip ties to secure the using to the appropriate structural components. Now I'm wondering if they can melt? I would think that if the cooler gets hot enough to melt plastic, then I got bigger problems. Plus, the kit came with plastic fasteners...

<Picture did not come out...>

Last edited by emplusten; Jul 8, 2007 at 06:01 PM. Reason: No picture was posted...
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2007 | 07:59 PM
  #2  
Jerm's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
From: Nebraska
This helped me https://www.yotatech.com/~corey/tech...ler/cooler.htm
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2007 | 02:22 AM
  #3  
emplusten's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Buffalo, NY area
Thanks.
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2007 | 05:27 AM
  #4  
Maj's Avatar
Maj
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
From: Orlando, FL
Ideally, you want to locate it where the cooler can take advantage of airflow from the fan, so yeah, that means stacking it right next to the condenser. Especially if you do much wheelin' in the warmer months. Your setup is certainly better than nothing and is probably fine for towing or other activities where ambient airflow is not a problem.

I don't blame you about being nervous using those zip ties. Although I'm sure the ties supplied won't melt they will certainly deteriorate in strength over time. I used bracketry to install my cooler.
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2007 | 05:44 AM
  #5  
xcmountain80's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,921
Likes: 0
From: Jupiter, FL
If your running an after market bumper this might be slightly different I Mounted mine low just above the lower lip on the condenser, the four holes in the TJM plus the upper air flow over the bumper cool it well enough. I'll get some pics.

Aaron
Reply
Old Jul 9, 2007 | 03:18 PM
  #6  
Texas_Ace's Avatar
Contributing Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,932
Likes: 1
From: DFW TEXAS BABY!
I put mine inbetween the condensor and the raditor and it works fine. I just got my Tranny temp guage installed so i will see how it does after some more driving but so far stays between 140 and 175. and i don't have any problems with the regular cooling at all.
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:11 AM
  #7  
YUonDAGround's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Where did y'all buy your Tranny coolers from?
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 09:28 AM
  #8  
Texas_Ace's Avatar
Contributing Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,932
Likes: 1
From: DFW TEXAS BABY!
I got mine on ebay for under $50 shipped
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2007 | 01:38 PM
  #9  
ARB1977's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 365
Likes: 1
From: North Texas
Get creative and make your own brackets...although i bought the trd cooler that came with them already.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 09:03 AM
  #10  
emplusten's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
From: Buffalo, NY area
Just to close the loop on what I did.
I ended up leaving the cooler in the location I mentioned above. It is in front of the cross brace so it ends up being a few inches ahead of the condenser. I made up some brackets to mount it.

Earlier this month I took the truck and my pop up trailer about 2000 miles and the setup worked good.

As an aside, I also thought the truck did a great job of pulling the 2500 pound trailer.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 06:23 AM
  #11  
onesojourner's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 158
Likes: 0
From: Springfield, mo
can you take a picture of your set up?
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 06:34 AM
  #12  
BajaRunner's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 7,122
Likes: 6
From: 5th Gen San Diegan, California
I did this, its been over a year and still sturdy as ever.

Reply
Old Sep 12, 2007 | 12:07 PM
  #13  
Gt4r97's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
From: Seattle,WA
Tranny Cooler position

Hi all, I've decided to install my Tru-cool tranny cooler. What do you think the best orientation for the outlets - up, upside down, or 90* (side ways)? Thanks!
Reply
Old Sep 12, 2007 | 12:20 PM
  #14  
Texas_Ace's Avatar
Contributing Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,932
Likes: 1
From: DFW TEXAS BABY!
you want the hoses to come out the bottom. There is no pressure in the lines so you want to make it as easy as possible to get the fluid through there.

Last edited by Texas_Ace; Sep 13, 2007 at 08:14 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2007 | 03:42 AM
  #15  
ARB1977's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 365
Likes: 1
From: North Texas
When i routed my lines i poped the grill off and drilled a hole next to the radiator then used a angle grinder to make the holes alittle bigger to allow me to use rubber grommets so that way when i rout the hoses its nice and clean and protected. If you wheel your rig this is the best way to go.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2007 | 04:08 AM
  #16  
mt_goat's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,666
Likes: 5
From: Oklahoma State
Originally Posted by Gt4r97
Hi all, I've decided to install my Tru-cool tranny cooler. What do you think the best orientation for the outlets - up, upside down, or 90* (side ways)? Thanks!
The best is sideways, in at the top and out at the bottom. That lets gravity help pull the ATF through the small passages.
Next best is both inlet and outlet at the top, worst is both down, especially if the cooler has a built-in bypass like these do:
http://www.importperformancetrans.com/coolers.shtml

But any direction is better than no cooler at all

I bet this is one direction you hadn't thought of


If you want a fan to cool it but don't want to add the extra heat to the radiator or don't like blocking the air flow to the radiator, you can always add a fan to cool the cooler.


This is an engine oil cooler but it gives you the same idea:


I've found used motorcycle fans work good too, they are usually just about the right size for a tranny cooler, run on 12 volts, and are cheap on e-bay. Here's one from a 98 Honda VFR 800 FI:


Here's one from a 99-02 Suzuki SV 650 (note its made by Denso):


Here it is installed:

Last edited by mt_goat; Sep 14, 2007 at 11:33 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2007 | 10:44 AM
  #17  
Gt4r97's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
From: Seattle,WA
Yeah, I got like the ones found in this site,
http://www.importperformancetrans.com/coolers.shtml, the Tru-cool 4452. I've already mounted the cooler outlets down. But if you say there's no pressure in the return line, the best route (i think) is to install it sideways. Well, I'll try to do some testing on how the oil flows through cooler when I connect the hoses.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:01 AM
  #18  
mt_goat's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 10,666
Likes: 5
From: Oklahoma State
Originally Posted by Gt4r97
Yeah, I got like the ones found in this site,
http://www.importperformancetrans.com/coolers.shtml, the Tru-cool 4452. I've already mounted the cooler outlets down. But if you say there's no pressure in the return line, the best route (i think) is to install it sideways. Well, I'll try to do some testing on how the oil flows through cooler when I connect the hoses.
I didn't say there's no pressure in the return line...the reason its better to not mount with the outlets down is because the flow tends to bypass the top part of the cooler. The pressure in the return line shouldn't vary either way.

Last edited by mt_goat; Sep 13, 2007 at 11:59 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2007 | 11:46 AM
  #19  
Gt4r97's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 122
Likes: 0
From: Seattle,WA
Originally Posted by mt_goat
I didn't say there's no pressure in the return line...
Okay, that's what i was thinking...have to remount that thing then. Thanks for your thoughts!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
pplusent
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
10
Sep 18, 2018 10:02 PM
agrout
Pre 84 Trucks
3
Aug 13, 2015 06:12 PM
Pedalpwr27
Prerunner & All 2WD Rigs
0
Aug 13, 2015 06:37 AM
this_guy
84-85 Trucks & 4Runners
1
Jul 31, 2015 01:27 PM
Iceman4193
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
3
Jul 15, 2015 04:48 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:28 PM.