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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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only thing that i could see someone saying thats bad about it is the electric motor in that fan has a pretty powerful magnet.. if i bring my desk fan near my monitor.. it effects it.. although working inside the case i always use a magentic tip, never had something fry on me.. besides, the strongest magnet you'll probably ever 'find' is in your harddrive.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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yeah, we considered whether damage might occur from the magnetic flux, but so far no problems. i wish my power supply had a 120v socket on the back, so i could have the fan be switched. as it is, i've gotta turn it off separately from the case. obviously nbd in the big scheme of things, but still, just one more thing. the fan core is almost a foot away from the drives, so i'm not too concerned. i've had this going since late last fall, and no problems.

so anyway, back to the main thrust of the thread... 92 runner have you had any progress yet? i really think just taking off the side panel is your biggest bang for the buck in a hurry without any work -- it made a 4°C difference for my CPU alone, and about 5°C ambient. oh and i goofed: the "silver 5" i said earlier is actually "arctic silver 5", sorry. if you want to try it, i can probably snail-mail you a little blob of it.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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I appreciate all the help guys!

The thing is that my PC ran great with no problems for about a year. I used to burn CD's and DVD's without even a hiccup. Then, gradually it started to shut down on it own while doing anything resource intensive.

I can take pics so you guys can see my set up, if that helps.

I'll try and replace the CPU fan to see if that helps. I'm thinking about buying a new chipset. Do you guys think that is even feasible?

If so, what do you guys recommend?

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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when you say chipset... do you mean cpu? or your motherboard? what? cause a chipset is the motherboards cpu, and cannot be changed... i would probably recommend looking at the cpu for any discoloration before dropping anymore money in trying to repair it.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by green91runner
when you say chipset... do you mean cpu? or your motherboard? what? cause a chipset is the motherboards cpu, and cannot be changed... i would probably recommend looking at the cpu for any discoloration before dropping anymore money in trying to repair it.
Motherboard and cpu
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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depending on what new board you get, you might need to change the ram and video card too... pci-express and ddr2... (if you went that way)
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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so, you get it sorted? or you going new? keep us posted.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by green91runner
so, you get it sorted? or you going new? keep us posted.
I have given up. I'm clueless at this point. I pretty sure with a new mother board and processor that it will we working fine.

Anyone want to buy a PC?
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 06:17 AM
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Wait, don't give up yet. Reading so far, there has been a lot of good information and advice. But am I the only one thinking it might be the power supply? It might be worth a shot, I have very similar componnets to yours and I had to replace my power supply and it is working like a champ now.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by calg3
Wait, don't give up yet. Reading so far, there has been a lot of good information and advice. But am I the only one thinking it might be the power supply? It might be worth a shot, I have very similar componnets to yours and I had to replace my power supply and it is working like a champ now.
Your thinkin' that the power supply is not putting out enough juice to power the fans at full capasity therefore causing it to overheat?
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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No, not exactly. I am thinking that as your system gets hot the heat shuts down the power supply if it is failing or having some other problem. That was the problem with my power supply, it was weak and/or failing so it shut down the system. My processor/MB and all other components still work fine.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by calg3
No, not exactly. I am thinking that as your system gets hot the heat shuts down the power supply if it is failing or having some other problem. That was the problem with my power supply, it was weak and/or failing so it shut down the system. My processor/MB and all other components still work fine.
Hmmm, intresting. Its worth a shot. At this point I'm willing to try anything.
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Old Apr 16, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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*bump*

make sure you pick the psu at a place with a really lenient return policies (just in case), thats the one thing i miss about working at a computer store.. soo easy to troubleshoot anything, all the stock is at hand. shouldn't be the problem, considering you have witnessed really high temps.

although, i have had 2 instances where a component completely unrelated has messed up the whole system.. example, a faulty cd-rw, causing irregular freezing and issues booting up the system, or a hdd, causing bluescreens when it wasn't even being accessed (working in the memory only)

good luck, hopefully it's not the board, PITA to troubleshoot/repair.
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Old Apr 16, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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another idea is to check what your psu is putting out this can help to find if your psu is not giving the right volts and also how the rails look. I use speedfan http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php also enable write to log under config then you can find out what happens if it shuts down.
good luck
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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 06:15 AM
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Once again, thanks for all the suggestions guys. These have all been really helpfull and I have also learned alot.

I plan on picking up a power supply sometime this week to troubleshoot further.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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So, did you ever figure out this problem? I was doing a search on some stuff and came across this thread...

I have had the same problem with mine. My bios would say that I was running really hot, even with 2 external fans and 5 internal fans blowing around inside. I tried the goop, more fans, blah blah blah, and it still said I was running hot. It would also shut off a lot. When it would shut off, it would be everything, including the PSU. Finally, I got sick of working on it, so I gave up and put everything else in a different case except for the PSU, threw some new parts in there, and guess what...it was still doing it. After I replaced the PSU, it has worked perfectly fine, and it is now my main LAN rig. Sorry for necromancing an old thread, just figured I would share my expierience. I still don't understand why it would read that hot with an old PSU, but computers are weird.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 92' 4Runner SR5
Now, I can't seem to log on to the net. I reinstalled my network adaptor drivers and still nothing. I bought another network card and still nothing.
The way to troubleshoot the network is the 'ping' command, and network commands from a 'console window' eg Run -> cmd [enter]. Then IP CONFIG [enter]. etc... Try NET HELP and run each command looking for IP addresses or MAC addresses.

But it should PING your own network card to verify drivers installed, then it should PING other computers on your local network then PING remote internet IP addresses.
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