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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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Firefox review

Well for some reason my IE added a google search bar without my consent. I was starting to get a little fed up with the pop ups and trojans etc etc. I figured I'd try out Firefox see how crappy it was. Well I downloaded it, which is a really small file. I started surfing and instantly began to notice how much better it was. I get NO pop ups, I have more room to view a web page, everything seems to load more quickly, I have to say I'm really impressed.

The only thing I dont like is the fact that alot of webpage arent made with FireFox in mind, for exampe this box I'm typing in how kinda runs off --> that side of the screen....I have a scroll bar at the bottom so I can see over there but my IE would fit perfectly.....oh well small price to pay....

I'd highly recommend you guys check it out.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 06:12 AM
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unfortunatly yotatech.com isnt very compatible with firefox.... come on corey get with the times hehehe
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 06:26 AM
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You need to search here for my past post reviews on Firefox
I do not like the browser because it does not like us.

Nothing we can do, it is up to them.
My biggest complaint is when hitting the back button here in a list of "view new posts" it takes you to the very top instead of taking you to where you left off.

Midiwall has noted that they are aware of the problem, but who knows when it will be fixed.

I love IE, and I get no pop ups with Service Pack 2.
I still feel IE is the better choice.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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Firefox is ALOT better IMO than IE.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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Firefox is ALOT better IMO than IE.
True dat. I won't buy anything online over IE.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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this is the only forum that i have problems with....i use nasioc.com and s10forum.com alot without problem....i dont know anything about webpage design so my opinion is very bias...

I really like the tab surfing...keep me from having to open 15 different IE windows when multitasking....
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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The tab interface is cool, I did like that point about it.
But a lot of websites are not written to let Firefox view them correctly, so that is another of my beefs.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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A lot of the problems are with Firefox. A lot of the problems are websites that write for functions specific to IE. Since YotaTech is basically just vBulletin and since vBulletin works fine in browsers other than IE, the problems with YotaTech are likely problems with Firefox.

But it's only at 1.0. When trying to ship a 1.0 product, a publisher MUST eventually stop fixing known bugs and concentrate on kicking the thing out the door. Now that they have 1.0 out, they can start to concentrate on the bugs. Since vBulletin is pretty popular, I'd expect making Firefox work well with it would be near the top of their priority list.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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fwiw, this is the issue that Corey's talking about:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215405


It's a killer bug to fix.. Technically it's a core design change.

I (and a boatload of other folks) were hoping that it would be fixed for the 1.0 release but it didn't make the bugbar.

To point out though, it's something that a website _can_ fix on their own. The issue has to do with the question of handling BACK on a site that declares that the browser shouldn't be caching things. The spirit of a web site using cache control is based on caching icons, pics, form data, text fields, etc. Mozilla (the Firefox core) took the "no-store" flag a bit too literally and doesn't cache the page position in layout history. That's what you see happening.

If a website removes no-store from their cache-control, Firefox will be fine.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 05:41 AM
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gotcha.....well this is the only site i've ben on that it does, at least I notice it does, since I click back and forward alot. But it doesnt really bother me too much. Just the fact that I get no pop-up anymore is wonderful. With IE I barely got any but when visiting sites like ebaumsworld, abum etc I always get a few that would slip by. That never really bothered me, but when I started it up one day and I have a google.com toolbar that I know I didnt click yes to add I got a little ticked off and figured I'd try something new. Regardless I really like it, and althought this forum doesnt look 100% its still looks good and I feel alot more secure using it. I was in a MIRC chat a long long time ago and one of the guys in there could resite my history in the IE history, which made me uneasy, considering I run spyboy search and destroy religiously, NEVER click yes to anything and always know what I'm downloading and even though I know what i'm downloading I run it through an very updated norton antivirus, which I also have run everyother night and I usually check windows updates daily....I dunno if IE is more secure then it was then but at many bills as I pay online I really dont want to take that chance.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 05:47 AM
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I just ran spybot....usually I have around 30 problems running it weekly...I'm gonna run Firefox for a week and not use IE see if I have more or less problems in one week....
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CynicX
I just ran spybot....usually I have around 30 problems running it weekly...I'm gonna run Firefox for a week and not use IE see if I have more or less problems in one week....
Cool... sounds like a good gauge for you.

I've been a Netscape series fan since the days of it being Mosaic. I _have_ to use IE at workd because of corporate sites that have locked themselves into non-standard coding and credentials based security. But I only bring it up when I have to...Firefox runs all day long.



(and yes, I'll get a headset so you and Bentun1t can hear me yelling at you. )
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by midiwall
I've been a Netscape series fan since the days of it being Mosaic. I _have_ to use IE at workd because of corporate sites that have locked themselves into non-standard coding and credentials based security. But I only bring it up when I have to...Firefox runs all day long.
I've been using FireFox for about 3 months now and I don't have any issues other than the small one with YT. Some sites think that I'm accessing with Netscape 1.0 or similar, but I blow right through them and I'm fine. I now only use IE to access certain credentialed sites that I need for work or that I trust.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by midiwall

I've been a Netscape series fan since the days of it being Mosaic. I _have_ to use IE at workd because of corporate sites that have locked themselves into non-standard coding and credentials based security. But I only bring it up when I have to...Firefox runs all day long.
lol... me too... remember MOSAIC? which led to netscape 1...

we have lazy programmers at work which uses microsoft technologies... ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.

also, when i need to order dell stuff, their website is also IE driven...

otherwise moz 1.7.x here...

had a big argument with someone at work who responded to my statement "why do you use IE" with "because it's the best thing out there..."

so i go to my spheal how crappy IE is...

turns out she heads one programmiing group on campus that i was talking about...

and no i didnt apololgize for ripping her dept... :evil smiley:
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ldivinag
lol... me too... remember MOSAIC? which led to netscape 1...
Oh yeah... That's why I said "I've been a Netscape series fan since the days of it being Mosaic".

My bestus buddy went to school with Marc (Andreesen, the father of Mosaic). I was even Gophering before most of the world knew what a POP server was. And! I have a credit in the original Xmodem source code.

(I've been around this stuff for a while!)

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by midiwall
fwiw, this is the issue that Corey's talking about:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215405

It's a killer bug to fix.. Technically it's a core design change.

If a website removes no-store from their cache-control, Firefox will be fine.
It looks like YT has done this!! Back now returns me to the part of the page I left, and I don't see no-cache in the page source. Don't think Firefox has fixed the bug, but I don't really care as long as YT works right now :bounce2:
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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i lov firefox, no problems at all and for me everything fits just as it does in IE, minus the pop ups....
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tulsa_97SR5
It looks like YT has done this!! Back now returns me to the part of the page I left, and I don't see no-cache in the page source. Don't think Firefox has fixed the bug, but I don't really care as long as YT works right now.
Confirmed!

I suspect that this change showed up when Chris moved to the released vBulletin code along with the server move.

it's never bothered me, but it should make Corey happy now.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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That is great news.

I will fire up the Fox later when I get caught up here with the 120 new trheads since I left for work this morning.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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lol welcome to the darkside, heheh
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