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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 06:00 AM
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Another Reason for me to hate Apple

in addition to quicktime and i-tunes here is another reason for me to badmouth apple

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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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whats wrong with quicktime and itunes?
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 06:08 AM
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I'm SO tired of Itunes and quicktime. I have stopped upgrading them all together. EVERY time I upgrade, it crashes my computer and I have to get all sorts of drivers, reinstall things in JUST the right order, etc. I'm happy with my ipod right now, but when that thing dies, I'm going to move on to some other music device.

Edit: Since I haven't upgraded, itunes works fine and is a decent music player. It's all the features, pop ups, etc that piss me off.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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Crashing?

Your computer crashes when you use iTunes or when you uprgrade iTunes? Are you running a pc or a mac? Maybe I'm wrong but I bet your running pc. I guess I have had a totally different experience. I run a mac. Used to be hardcore pc. Its no insult to pcs, this thing just runs better and is easier to use, for me. Somethings it wont do, (good luck finding a CAD program), but c'mon what other software out there can do as much as itunes and remains completely free?
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 07:13 AM
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p.s. if you are running a pc, don't switch your music player, switch your computer. That is what is crashing and causing the problem, not the ipod. My pc used to do it all the time...
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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Yeah, I run a PC. Switching a music player is quite a bit cheaper than a computer. I'll use the version of itunes that I have right now till my ipod dies, then I'm going to get away from apple. They provide a good product and have one hell of a marketing department, but itunes sucks on a pc (i know it rocks on a mac) and since i do work at home sometimes, which requires PC applications, i can't make a switch to a mac. Especially when you factor in what it'd cost for me to get a new computer.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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you dont really need a new computer, just do a fresh install of windows, that should fix any problems
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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... and with bootcamp, windows runs fine on a mac! I have a macbook pro, and it runs all my work apps fine in windows (real estate programs just dont exist on the mac) BTW when I say it runs windows, it is not like virtual pc, the thing actually runs windows natively at full speed
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by dibble9012
you dont really need a new computer, just do a fresh install of windows, that should fix any problems
one of my fav quotes....

"running windows for 3-4 months is like re-using a condom 50-60 times...theoretically it can work, but its sick and ill-advised"

i don't hate i-tunes or quicktime, but i hate the fact that you are forced to use itunes if you have an ipod.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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I am not in favor of sweatshops, but you'd be surprised if you find out how many products we use, wear and eat are produced with low wage, exploited workers.

Sadly, It seems to be an unstoppable phenomena of the present economy.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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hm, i run itunes on a pc and i haven't had any problems.

but yeah, apple computers still suck.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TEPUI
I am not in favor of sweatshops, but you'd be surprised if you find out how many products we use, wear and eat are produced with low wage, exploited workers.

Sadly, It seems to be an unstoppable phenomena of the present economy.
i hear you, but as long as there are places in the world that people will work for next to nothing and other people can make an obsurd amount of money off of them it will continue to happen...


all to make an extra buck....
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:47 AM
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I run a pc, old school, 6 year old compaq presario 700 with itunes and have never had a problem with it crashing after updates.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 08:51 AM
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90% of the time, my iPod nano works great.

The other 10% it is the most frustrating thing ever.

Same with iTunes. Apple says "oh our stuff never crashes, you don't need a reset button" or whatever, but when the iPod won't respond to the computer (and you can't force it because that would be unApple-like) I just want to throw the thing.
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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ipod reset

hey tc you might have already known this but the ipod does have a reset. It depends upon the geeration and model but if you hold either play and menu at the same time or menu and the center button, or the center button and play for five or so seconds, it will reset it. And that is bs from apple, the ipod definetely crashes. And I agree with the above, you should be able to use something other than itunes if you want. Just cuz they say its best doesn't mean its best for everyone. It would be cool if you could use it with that napster subscription service or yahoo music download.

oly- very true macs come with a hefty price tag

dibble- is bootcamp out of beta yet?
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Old Jun 16, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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no, not out of beta yet, but works fine for me I was running xp, now I have vista running, but going to xp soon again, believe it or not, vista is WORSE than xp!! ( I know vista is still beta software, but the future doesnt look too promising)
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by brandontrek
in addition to quicktime and i-tunes here is another reason for me to badmouth apple

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Oh PLEASE! This is the precise reason why companies go overseas to have their work done! So they can pay some poor schmoe almost nothing in order to create greater profits. I was laid off on June 2nd because my company has decided that someone in India can do my job at a fraction of the cost.
Don't let Apple fool you, they know exactly who is making their products and how much/little they are getting paid.

As a side not, another employee I worked with has started a new web site to address the outsourcing we went through. The front page is really funny! If you are interested in a good laugh: http://www.moorewallace.net/
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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He is a smart man... the co you used to work for just might end up paying him some big $$ to take it down if people start catching wind of it...

I heard Savannah College of art and Design (my college) paid someone almost $300,000 to take a website down that described a bombing that went on at one of the school's buildings. Crime is a BIG problem in Savannah so that might have something to do with it. I'd start promoting the crap out of the website and go from there...
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 03:17 AM
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Chevy > Ford. Wait, wrong thread.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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I have no love lost for Itunes. It works and thats all I'll say about it. If I could get an ipod and not be tied to itunes I probably would own one or it would be high on the list. The trouble is that half the user experience is the software you use for music and frankly being tied to Itunes(alone), the drm bs that comes with it, and the fact that the itunes user interface is less than stellar has made driven the ipod off my list altogether.

Btw my fiancee owns one so I do know about them.
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