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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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i did 13 sheets of HTM (2 layers in cargo area, 2 layers on each door)...it made an incredible difference.

the only problem was, that the HTM didnt stick too well on the vertical surfaces for me. I was using a roller and 3M spray and a heat gun and after a few weeks (summer) it came off inside the doors. Dunno if it's cuz my truck's black and it really heated it up or what.

I'm ordering the Vibration Damping Compound from McMaster car for christmas. it's liquid form, and i'll layer it on the metal parts of the doors to stiffen for vibration. Here's a pic of my cargo area once it had 2 layers on it, before i put the panel back on:
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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by phoenix808
the only problem was, that the HTM didnt stick too well on the vertical surfaces for me. I was using a roller and 3M spray and a heat gun and after a few weeks (summer) it came off inside the doors. Dunno if it's cuz my truck's black and it really heated it up or what.
My trucks black, but I used peal-n-seal and it sticks great. Plus it's just as sound deadening as that stuff at about 1/4 the cost.
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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Good post 2ndskin!
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 04:14 PM
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Good post 2ndskin!
I second that, no pun intended. Hey did you visit the website, it's pretty dang cool. hey 2nd skin, you might want to edit you post and fix the link though, you got an "op" at the end instead of an "io" so it doesn't work.
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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Thanks for the heads up on the link.


You like the site?
I am still waiting on a few thing. install pics, and some other filler stuff

Thanks for the compliment though

ANT
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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I especially like your signature
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Cebby
I especially like your signature
I just noticed that! Cripes!
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 02:36 AM
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"www.secondskinaudio.com"

This link doesn't work for me. It redirects to :
http://www.secondskinaudio.com/upgrade.asp
and a 404 error.
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by Jeff B
"www.secondskinaudio.com"

This link doesn't work for me. It redirects to :
http://www.secondskinaudio.com/upgrade.asp
and a 404 error.
it works for me:

www.secondskinaudio.com

it reduces to: www.secondskinaudio.com/secondskin.html
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by keisur
www.secondskinaudio.com/secondskin.html
Thanks, that one works.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 07:46 AM
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Dont hesitate to email me if you guys have any questions
service@secondskinaudio.com
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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has anyone used the second skin materials? i see that we get 40% off and free shipping though sounds like a good deal?
Thanks
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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If you need more info on second skin you can run a search over at
www.caraudioforum.com
www.caraudio.com

plenty of ppl over there use my products
email me if you have any questions
I am always happy to help
even if you dont use second skin
service@secondskinaudio.com
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 04:13 AM
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Originally posted by Bumpin' Yota
It certainly can't hurt unless it got caught in the window track or something....lol
this is what happened to me! i put 2 layers of HTM on the inner part and outter part of all my doors, and it peeled a bit (even with copious amounts of 3M Super 90 spray) and the windows started dragging on it. I'm ordering the liquid/putty vibration damping material for christmas...apply it to all the doors and floor.

But I'll try the 8# carpet padding too (since you're right, a combo of both types of deadening is the best) on my floor. yay! thanks for the suggestions.
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 07:14 AM
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the problem with high temp mastic is the adhesive is a seperate film that is pressed on to the mastic. This film is usually a 3 or 4 mil thick double sided 3M tape.
constraint layer dampers (foil with butyl or modified asphalt) use the butyl as the adhesive. there is not extra film laminated to the textile. the butyl or asphalt is typicly between 30 and 50 mils thick which makes for a better bond strength


ANT
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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yesterday i took the whole trunk area apart in under an our using a panel removing tool. i then waited for ups to come all day with my 2 million feet or so of fatmat, that never arrived.


ALSO EVERYONE SHOULD NOT DO BUISNESS WITH QUALITY AUTO SOUND-------last year i had them put in 4 sheets of dynamat extreme and wehn i popped off the panel their was maby half a sheet on their. i wanna go complain but have heard about them breaking into ppl's cars and reselling their merchandise
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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kind of makes me remember something about counting chickens before they have hatched. I guess you learned you should-uh waited to strip it down until you had the stuff in-hand. sorry to hear that.
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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Anyone have a functional link to McMaster?

The one posted before gets me to a place to register new e-mail addresses.
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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Fly,

I make that mistake all the time. Its www.mcmaster.com, not mcmasters (plural).

Bob
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Old Feb 8, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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so if i was going to do this which material should i use? second skin damplifier, or mcmater's whatever? and should i put some carpet padding on top of the damping material?
thanks
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