Which CD Player?
Jun 2, 2004 | 07:03 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by jethro358
Well thanks for all the advice guys, just ordered the HU yesterday.
My New CD Player!!
I went with this one instead of the 7600 because I knew I would never play MP3's, and the guy said that was basically the ONLY difference betweeen the two. I also noticed a couple of the buttons are green instead of blue, so no big differences.
I took the advice and let an actual store install it, they do it right the first time and I get the whole warranty thing.
Now the price...It was roughly $370 for the whole setup including wires and installation. $15 for the wires, $15 for a fitting kit so there's no big gap, $45 for installation, and I think $279 for the CD player. Installation begins on Sunday at noon, I can't wait!
My New CD Player!!
I went with this one instead of the 7600 because I knew I would never play MP3's, and the guy said that was basically the ONLY difference betweeen the two. I also noticed a couple of the buttons are green instead of blue, so no big differences.
I took the advice and let an actual store install it, they do it right the first time and I get the whole warranty thing.
Now the price...It was roughly $370 for the whole setup including wires and installation. $15 for the wires, $15 for a fitting kit so there's no big gap, $45 for installation, and I think $279 for the CD player. Installation begins on Sunday at noon, I can't wait!
Jun 2, 2004 | 08:08 AM
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From: Oconomowoc, WI
Remember that an HU is only half the battle. Thats only if you want to compeat with others.
I'll agree that pioneer has fallen short of sound quality compaired to Alpine, but its not like your going to notice too much. I've had some bad luck with faceplates on the pioneers. The one in my grand am wont come off anymore. Its probably cause I let my wife drive it most of the time.
If you replace the HU with just about any aftermarket HU(stay AWAAAY from ebay!!) you'll be happy. I put in my old JVC deck in my 4runner and noticed the stock door speakers are WAY under-powered. Plus my JVC has a remote and an adjustable motorized face that pops out and tilts in 3 diffrent ways when you put the keys in... Just some useless coolness, but I'm contemp with it since it has a line in input so I can hook up an mp3 player or my brother inlaws XM reciver.
If I had a choice between Alpine or Pioneer, I'd have to say Pioneer! ease of use! PLus I notice a lot of alpines are boring and look the same.
Which brings something up... Has anybody tryed any of the Rockford Hu's? I havent heard too much about them, and was thinking of getting one since I already have a Rockford Amp.
I'll agree that pioneer has fallen short of sound quality compaired to Alpine, but its not like your going to notice too much. I've had some bad luck with faceplates on the pioneers. The one in my grand am wont come off anymore. Its probably cause I let my wife drive it most of the time.
If you replace the HU with just about any aftermarket HU(stay AWAAAY from ebay!!) you'll be happy. I put in my old JVC deck in my 4runner and noticed the stock door speakers are WAY under-powered. Plus my JVC has a remote and an adjustable motorized face that pops out and tilts in 3 diffrent ways when you put the keys in... Just some useless coolness, but I'm contemp with it since it has a line in input so I can hook up an mp3 player or my brother inlaws XM reciver.
If I had a choice between Alpine or Pioneer, I'd have to say Pioneer! ease of use! PLus I notice a lot of alpines are boring and look the same.
Which brings something up... Has anybody tryed any of the Rockford Hu's? I havent heard too much about them, and was thinking of getting one since I already have a Rockford Amp.
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Jun 2, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Breezey
If your still looking for a radio and you want to order it, call my friend at Auto Radio Stereo here in CA, tell him Greg sent you, He will sell it to you at cost, they sell Pioneer, Eclipse
Anyways, PM me
Anyways, PM me
And oh Alpines are good units, but not user friendly, I still can't program my HU.
Jun 2, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mystickal
Crutchfield is not the end-all be-all authority to what will fit in your vehicle (especially when it comes to speakers). They are probably about 95% accurate, however. In the end, with a little ingenuity and sometimes a little work with a dremel you can fit just about anything.
But if you're looking at the DIN and a half units from Pioneer, stay away - those are definitely not just a drop in installation in a 4Runner. They are designed for GM cars that have a different opening.
~Bill
But if you're looking at the DIN and a half units from Pioneer, stay away - those are definitely not just a drop in installation in a 4Runner. They are designed for GM cars that have a different opening.
~Bill
Jun 2, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by unr.frosh
Crutchfield doens't know anything. My amp puts out 550 RMS at 4 ohms and they told me to get a 4ohm dual voice coil sub to create a 4 ohm load. They know nothing, with a 4ohm DVC you can create either a 2ohm or 8 ohm load, I needed a 2ohm Dual Voice Coil sub to create the 4ohm load needed for my amp.
~Bill
Jun 2, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystickal
Crutchfield is not the end-all be-all authority to what will fit in your vehicle (especially when it comes to speakers). They are probably about 95% accurate, however. In the end, with a little ingenuity and sometimes a little work with a dremel you can fit just about anything.
~Bill
~Bill
Jun 2, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystickal
You could have only hooked up 1 voice coil, giving you a 4 ohm load, plus the flexibility to go to a 2 ohm load in the future.
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~Bill
Jun 2, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by unr.frosh
How would thaT sound though? I wouldn't be getting all I could get out of the sub that way, right?
The thing is that with a 4 ohm DVC sub, you can hook up the sub in 4 different ways:
1 - both voice coils in series, presenting an 8 ohm load
2 - both voice coils in parallel, presenting a 2 ohm load
3 - both voice coils independently of each other (ie to a 2 channel amp) presenting a 4 ohm load
4 - one voice coil only, presenting a 4 ohm load
Methods 1, 2, and 3 will provide similar performance with similar power input, while method 4 will (as mentioned) result in a loss of efficiency.
More, good info on DVC subs can be found here and here
~Bill
Jun 3, 2004 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mystickal
That is correct, there would be about a 3 db loss of efficiency over having both voice coils hooked up.
The thing is that with a 4 ohm DVC sub, you can hook up the sub in 4 different ways:
1 - both voice coils in series, presenting an 8 ohm load
2 - both voice coils in parallel, presenting a 2 ohm load
3 - both voice coils independently of each other (ie to a 2 channel amp) presenting a 4 ohm load
4 - one voice coil only, presenting a 4 ohm load
Methods 1, 2, and 3 will provide similar performance with similar power input, while method 4 will (as mentioned) result in a loss of efficiency.
More, good info on DVC subs can be found here and here
~Bill
The thing is that with a 4 ohm DVC sub, you can hook up the sub in 4 different ways:
1 - both voice coils in series, presenting an 8 ohm load
2 - both voice coils in parallel, presenting a 2 ohm load
3 - both voice coils independently of each other (ie to a 2 channel amp) presenting a 4 ohm load
4 - one voice coil only, presenting a 4 ohm load
Methods 1, 2, and 3 will provide similar performance with similar power input, while method 4 will (as mentioned) result in a loss of efficiency.
More, good info on DVC subs can be found here and here
~Bill
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