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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 03:34 AM
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I'm just now building my truck, will be 55 this month and still rock my 08 YZ 450...

Nice truck btw.
So you too remember black and white TV, no remote controls and leaded gas. Ahhh the good old days. The truck is a work in progress it will never be 100% done, probably never 90%. But it's ready to wheel.
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 11:33 AM
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In those days the Wizard of Oz was a once a year event.
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Old Oct 22, 2013 | 07:17 PM
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Yep would love to see what you come up with.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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I think what you want is totally possible. I thought I'd seen a 1st gen body swapped onto an IFS frame before but cannot find the pic, maybe I'm imagining it. I know for sure people have put older rigs, like FJ40s onto IFS frames and run the IFS, so why not? If someone can swap a car body, like a camaro body onto a solid axle chassis, then this will be pretty much the same concept.

I would think the easiest and fastest way to execute this would be to do a frame swap with an IFS frame and move everything over with new mounts for your body and drivetrain. This way all your IFS mounts are already in place and you have the correct angles on everything for things like caster angles, etc. If you frame swap, sure it's a lot of work, but I think it'd be just as much work trying to adapt IFS bracketry onto the solid axle frame and get everything in perfect positioning so you can safely drive it down the road.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by R.DesJardin
So you too remember black and white TV, no remote controls and leaded gas. Ahhh the good old days. The truck is a work in progress it will never be 100% done, probably never 90%. But it's ready to wheel.
Yep the good old days. I guess we can just call it a labor of love cause why else would we do it...

Keep us updated on the project. The IFS swap!!! So common to go the other way.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 04:57 PM
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I think what you want is totally possible. .................................................. ...., but I think it'd be just as much work trying to adapt IFS bracketry onto the solid axle frame and get everything in perfect positioning so you can safely drive it down the road.
Thanks, and who said anything about driving this on the road? Hello, 4x4, not AWD. My truck is a trailer queen at it will seldom if ever see pavement. Not really any more of a worry than getting the leaf spring brackets on straight in a SAS.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 09:19 PM
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I've been mulling over doing an IFS conversion on my 81 for about a year now. Have most of my parts figured out.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 09:34 PM
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Would be much easier to put a first gen cab on an ifs frame.
It's worth noting that the first gen cab is very narrow compared the trackwidth of a decent long travel setup. Be prepared to stretch your fenders if you local police are concerned with tire coverage.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SCToy
Would be much easier to put a first gen cab on an ifs frame.
It's worth noting that the first gen cab is very narrow compared the track width of a decent long travel setup. Be prepared to stretch your fenders if you local police are concerned with tire coverage.
Fender width not an issue already:
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:47 AM
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Yea, that will work.
The other option is you could link it front and rear and get some good coilovers and bypasses to control all that unsprung weight. I've seen a couple of solid axle trucks linked front and rear that handled pretty well at high speeds.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:49 AM
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That would probably be the least cost/time to performance ratio considering you already have the axles built. Making some links isn't that difficult compared to A arms.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:54 AM
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I am thinking Rory wants to do this as an experiment (just to see if it can be done) and be different
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 06:01 AM
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Oh, it can definitely be done.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by dropzone
I am thinking Rory wants to do this as an experiment (just to see if it can be done) and be different
Robb, you know me so well. Why else would I have built Triple Sticks and shifters for my A340F.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 09:01 AM
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Frame swap / cab swap! Buy a second rig 1986+ and do the swap, the sell the second rig to pay for the project.
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BlazeN8
Frame swap / cab swap! Buy a second rig 1986+ and do the swap, the sell the second rig to pay for the project.
Wondered when you would show up since this is your game.
So buy an IFS truck and swap in my dual cased A340 2RZ, build all new mounts for it and then the fuel tank that I swapped sides on and don't forget the 63" Chevies setup, then rip out the stock IFS and rebuild it with all new parts and then the interior, custom console and all that fit the current truck or make an IFS unit to weld on my truck?
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 11:30 AM
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you could buy up an IFS frame/roller, chop off the front end , do the same on your SFA frame, then swap them on there with some extra reinforcement. That'd probably be route with minimal transfer of items. I'd think the IFS frame is slightly stronger due to taller box frame vs earlier gen.

here's what I'm referring to (but opposite, as this is putting SA front frame onto an 86 IFS rear frame I believe):
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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 02:27 PM
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I'm familiar with cut and weld frames. Here's picks of a frame swap IFS I did, sometime back in the early 90's. Dodge Power Ram 50 frame and drivetrain.

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Old Oct 24, 2013 | 07:38 PM
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Ha Ha, yeah I was kind of kidding around. Its ironic IFS guys want to swap in a live axle and now we got a live axle guy wanting to swap in IFS. I met a fellow from Ventura back in 2004, with a 1985 truck, that was wheeling with a bunch of TC guys, he told me he wanted to do the swap to IFS "Long Travel" so he could keep up.

I think how ever you go about it its going to be a lot of work. It will be something unique to see IFS under your 83.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BlazeN8
Ha Ha, yeah I was kind of kidding around. Its ironic IFS guys want to swap in a live axle and now we got a live axle guy wanting to swap in IFS. I met a fellow from Ventura back in 2004, with a 1985 truck, that was wheeling with a bunch of TC guys, he told me he wanted to do the swap to IFS "Long Travel" so he could keep up.

I think how ever you go about it its going to be a lot of work. It will be something unique to see IFS under your 83.
Yeah, lots of work but it's really pretty simple to drop the solid axle and springs out awhile I fab and fit up the IFS. Nothing gone permanently until get the IFS welded in.
I ordered pivot parts today. This won't go quick but I'll be tinkering on it this winter.
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