YOTADEN

I have a new 302 v8 and have been told that this is a great engine swap for my tacoma. I was wondering if anyone has done this before and how do you like it. I do know that I will be doing it pretty soon. Any pointers would help me a great deal. It is a regular cab with 5.5" of lift running 31 12.50 Xterrains. This has been the best truck I have ever owned so I want to make it a toy and keep it for a long time.

MTL_4runner

I wouldn't swap a Toyota motor for a Ford but that is just me.

YOTADEN

I am just doing itfor somthing different. Also more powerforthesand dunes

rngrchad

Git'r Done! And post some pics!

Mikey

Replacing toyota with ford???? I'd never do it

rngrchad

4.3 liter v6 swaps are much more common.....but shoot he said he wanted to be different you can't blame a man for that. If it were me I'd sell the ford block, and buy a 4.3 chevy. There are much more adapters and what not being produced for that engine. Note: this is coming from someone who's only done 2 engine swaps in his life and have almost no fabrication skills.

Phisherman

Do a search for John Douglass. Hope it helps and make sure you post pics during the swap.

jimbo74

most people put in the gm 4.3 or the 350

the ford will work though, although parts may be harder to find... keep in mind, that unless you can find housing adapters and such and have or know someone with tools and fabricating equipment and can afford it, its within reach..... also you may want to look at replacing the rest of the drivetrain, the axles should be able to handle the power, but you might wnat to replace the tcase and tranny, you will also need the donor engines computer and all that stuff

wifesaysimadumbass

wait till you find a v8 from a tundra and swap that in .... toyota all the way baby!!!!

RockComa

I have seen a tacoma with the 4.7 tundra. Since I didn't get the pick it apart here's what a quick overview showed me. The wiring is almost a plug and play application. TRD headers are needed to clear the frame rails and you'll need the floorshift console from a V6 tacoma for the tranny shift pattern to line up. THis is b/c the tundra uses the same tranny as a V6 tacoma, just has bigger internals. Basically its about a 94/5%bolt in job. Check the salvage yards in maryland. I've heard in some areas japanese prodcuts don't bring much income so there cheap. 800 for a complete 4,7 is what a buddy told me roughly.

TACOMANATOR

That would be great if he had a 4.7 Toy engine. He was asking about a 302 Ford since he has one already. As for the 4.3---forget about it and go for the horse power.

redplastic2p3t

ford small block swap is better than a gm swap imo, but look into the supra turbo motors lots of info there, + you stay all toyota, but if you want to swap the 5.0 (which i would hope that you do!) look for the maf 5.0 high output motors out of a fox body mustang! plenty o torque there and not too awful bad on fuel,

rockota

What's the 302 out of? Truck or Mustang? The truck engine will likely not fit well if it's EFI, as the intake is much taller than the 'stang. That being said, you can get adapters for "a" toy tranny from Advanced Adapters. I'd recommeng a R150 or R151 ONLY... do not try to make a W or G series tranny last behind that engine.

The 5.0 is a better swap, IMHO than a 350 or 4.3. It's small, light, capable of a ton of horsepower, parts are cheap and plentiful thanks to the Mustang croud. I know of no Taco with a 5.0, but so what? Make it happen.

ETN4runner

the problem with a 302 (other than its a ford motor) is that they aren't a very good torque motor. A 350 or a 4.3 either one prolly have more torque in comparison to displacement. I know for a fact that the old 300 inline 6 ford motors would out pull a 302 in bottom end b/c i have seen that before.

hamstrungtaco

i wanna put a detroit 3.0 "diseasel" in mine, get the gas mileage http://www.detroitdiesel.com/product...pecs/index.asp

ETN4runner

you could get a 2lt or 3l. I think that they are supposed to be similar, power wise.

Wireflight

The LT-series GM engines are 80-100 pounds heavier than the low-deck SBF. The 6.0+ liter LS engines from GM are impressive, but the OP already has a 5.0 Ford.

As to the 5.0 Windsor being "weak on the bottom," that's hogwash: the engine's powerband will be wherever you build it. The 300L6 Ford is known for low-end grunt, but it weighs as much as a 351W; why would you want that, unless you were competing in a special rules-limited class?

Take a look at Air Flow Research's "Dyno Tested Packages with Proven Power and Performance" page (located at http://www.airflowresearch.com/dyno.php). The first package under 302-cube Fords shows 302 lbs-ft available at only 2000 rpm and 378 lbs-ft available at only 4500 rpm -- using 92-octane premium gasoline, a 650-cfm carb, and a 10.0:1 static compression ratio! If you want to use cheap gas, just re-tune; expect the numbers to drop about 15-25 units.

In light vehicles, that sort of grunt used to be available only from big blocks. Peak horsepower was 421 at 6100 rpm -- giving the lowly 302W a power curve that's very competitive with the DOHC 5.0. Factor-in something for the simplicity of the 302W, and it's greatly superior in terms of bucks-in versus fun-out.

Not good enough? Try this: http://www.airflowresearch.com/muscl...-165cc-sbf.php

Or if you'd like something not quite so intense: http://www.airflowresearch.com/musta...-165cc-sbf.php

Here's another hosted review of the AFR165s on a 302: http://airflowresearch.com/articles/article051/A-P1.htm

Here's another hosted review of the AFR165s on a 302 (400hp using the stock camshaft): http://airflowresearch.com/articles/article087/A-P1.htm

25-ish mpg with 315-335 RWHP: http://airflowresearch.com/articles/article089/A-P4.htm

The new Renegade-series AFR165 heads likely best fit the performance goals of the OP; Ultradyne (now Bullet) used to offer great tech help, and has been pretty much at the forefront of camshaft design in the USA throughout its history; Comp Cams offers remarkably similar mainstream grinds and good tech help -- and nowadays, there's probably several dozen grinders that will make a custom camshaft for you, or you might be best served by one of their off-the-shelf grinds. Unless you're an expert, you won't know until you spend some time talking with one.

Best wishes, and happy (and SAFE) holidays!

wyoming9

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Only 10 year old thread I do wonder if it ever got done??