Not a single Tacoma will have any of that. They have no computer traction what so ever.

It's a pickup not an SUV.

 

I like the idea of coilover shocks with links, there somthing to be said for having adjustable suspension and if you do a little reseach you can get the info you need to do the correct suspension geomentry. But it will be alot more work then adding leaf springs, But if it where me and I had the funds and the time I would do the coilovers, but for now I'm happy with IFS. $.02

 

i like the idea of a coil over sas, IF i ever done a SAS, thats the way id go, but with no knowledge of how to, or a place to work on it, or the tools to complete it, and no DD while its being done, im sure i would have to pay someone, but for me, right now the IFS works just fine. atleast hes willing to give it shot.

 

Today while working away, I figured out how to swap an 01-02.

We'll see, I already have a guy. Sorry, no data until his is done and that will not be anytime soon. There is a way, think about it.

 

okay wow, thanks guys for your input. I had thought about the trac system before I posted, but was assuming that because the 99-00 didnt have trac that I could disable it, I would already be taking out the abs, I know that I dont know alot about this yet, but thats why I posted. I was sitting here thinking about how poorly my truck flexed and decided to start researching an SAS system, for real this time. Ive thought about it in the past but it was a fleeting thought. Im sorry I didnt research it more before I posted but I figured that this would be a good spot to start, and it is. Ive learned so much in the past few days since my first post. I am still looking for ways to take out/disable trac vsc. Im not exactly alone in this endeavor, but who knows, I may find that one piece of information that tells me, hey, this wont work, ever. and at that point ill just buy a toyota mini and do whatever to that. In response to making my trucks value squat. I dont really care, Im not going to sell it. Its the first vehicle I bought and so even if I dont do SAS Im still gonna keep it forever. Ive gathered that a coil over set up will be in the 6-8k range but have never been able to see how much a leaf set up would be. Does anyone who knows about the electrical system know if its possible to take out trac?

And Im totally up for criticism, Id rather learn now, than later when my truck doesnt have IFS anymore....

Thanks again

Kyle

 

by the way, welcome to yotatech, and that's an AWESOME attitude to have. you'll do just fine here...

 

I may find that one piece of information that tells me, hey, this wont work, ever. and at that point ill just buy a toyota mini and do whatever to that.

Nobody is saying that a SAS is impossible on your truck, just a lot bigger pain in the ass

In response to making my trucks value squat. I dont really care, Im not going to sell it. Its the first vehicle I bought and so even if I dont do SAS Im still gonna keep it forever.

I was singing that very same tune almost 2 years ago. Now I have the baddest 3rd Gen around that never leaves the pavement because I now live at the beach and rocks are very far away.

Ive gathered that a coil over set up will be in the 6-8k range but have never been able to see how much a leaf set up would be.

I easily spent that much on my leaf SAS. It is a new truck, you don't want to cut any corners.

Does anyone who knows about the electrical system know if its possible to take out trac?

Of course it is.

 

Most leaf spring setups that I have seen will run around 4-5K for the front, That is do rebuild the axle with basically stock parts and regear. That is also taking into account that you will do almost all of the work. One thing to remember is that If you are going over 3" or lift, the rear has to be redone, which will add $ into the whole equation. Also is this vehicle your daily driver? The project will take some time, especially a coilover setup. You may be able to get it done in a few days, but plan on there being some kinks that will add on more days to the down time. (Rental cars can add up quick) Overall it will be a sweet project if you decide to take it on, just think about it had before you start, by the end you will wish it was just over, at least that was the way I was. I got the rear done in one weekend the front the next weekend, but I spent about 8 full weekends, building parts, searching junkyards, trimming fenders, moving parts like the washer fluid res, and numerous other things. By the time the swap came I was already getting tired of it. Here is a link if you haven't seen it yet of a coilover Tacoma that was finnished earlier this year.

Link

 

Okay, so what if I want it to be at or around 3" of lift and have a SA? what would you guys recommend doing? Ive decided that instead of having a picture in my head of what I want I should listen to some people that have done it and figure out whats the best way to approach this. Yes the 4runner is my daily driver, but I have a motorcycle so I can ride that for the a while, hopefully its near winter when it doesnt rain every day. So then basically the only thing thats different between my truck and a 1999-2000 is the trac and vsc, correct? so then I would just have to remove that? If you know let me know please! So from most of the response I have received can some people who have an SAS on their 3rd gen tell me why they went to a SA?

 

and if anyone wants to throw in what axle they used please feel free. Thanks again!

 

I used a 87' Waggy Axle. As far as the reasoning behind doing it, I was planning on spending 4k or so to make my vehicle better off-road. I was going to put a crawler and locker in the front along with regearing. I knew that eventually I was going to do a SAS so I could go on a lot of the hardest trails in CO. After hearing about leaking issues with marlin crawlers and knowing that I would just be ripping the new front gears and locker out after a couple of years, I decided to go with the SAS and hope that Marlin has the issue figured out in a couple of years. This way I regeared and locked it and don't have to worry about taking it all out and selling it later.

 

I am thinking of trails like Independence Trail. Yes many of the trails are possible with IFS, but on most all of those roads are much harder lines and obsticals which will eat up CV's And next on my list is an exocage and tube doors. I figure in a couple of years it will be on its side on some trail. I figure my vehicle will be ten years old in a few months and it has 155K miles. I originally was going to buy an older truck, then I realized mine is getting old why do that.

 

There's also the reason to do it becasue you can. I mean, if someone has enough money and time, and want's to do something just to see if they can, then go for it. I get a very big sense of fufillment from completing some mod or fab work on my truck, even if it is just cutting out rust and re building a pannel. I mean, i can see completely redoing the front suspension on a truck being extremely rewarding, and it really sets someone apart from the average crowd to have done something so huge. Do folks need a SAS? Some do some don't, but if they can, then they should. It's their money and their time, why not?

Also, so maybe jeff can do 2 more trails than he could before with his SAS. But on he's much less likely to break something now, and that right there is worth it. Trail repairs are ridiculous, and time consuming, and can really ruin your day if you don't have spare parts. Also, both moab and farmington are within 6-8 hours from here, and Cali and arizona aren't that far either.

 

Why did I do it?

1. Because I can.

2. Tax write off.

3. Stronger front end.

Can I do more trails. No. I did them all with IFS, so did Hunt.

I'm still waiting for ANY 3rd Gen to go up Rock Chucker on Metal Masher in Moab. So far me and Hunt are it. We BOTH did it with IFS.

 

This is as close as you are going to get...Schaefer's Spring Under SAS

He is at about 4" of overall suspension lift over stock.

 

You guys hit it on the head. Because you can. If you are somebody who can't stop modding your vehicle and are always looking to step up the vehicle one more notch, SAS is the ultimate mod. It takes a lot of time and money, but in the end you know that your suspension was built and designed by you. Yeah, I could have went a while without a SA on mine, but I would just be talking about doing it all the time, and doing nothing about it.
It is exciting, and I say more power to you RunnerUp if you go through with it. If you figure out the traction issue and do a coilover, you will get just that much more fulfillment.

 

Cubuff4runner;

about wanting to get it over, I hear ya. Last night I was in the garage till 9:30, and I still had to get up early in the morning to go to work.....

I'll be much happier in a few weeks...

 

[sschaefer3 voice] I am the GOD of the 3rd Gen 4Runner world, hear me roar!!!!
[/sschaefer3 voice]

 

God of the 3rd Gen 4Runner world.......

hmmmm.....I would say god of his own fertile imagination