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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 03:58 AM
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Firemedic's right, please post info on the OEM bolts so we can help you find a replacement...

What are the OEM bolts? M12? Carriage head?

The photo posted above, grade 2 bolts, should not be used. They will not hold up to stress or corrosion.
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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Okay,
I checked McMaster-Carr, they have:

98930A223
Metric Class 8.8 Round Head SQ Neck Screw Zinc Yellow Chromate, M10 Sz, 50mm Lg, 1.50mm Pitch
In stock at $46.99 per 100
This item is only sold in Packs of 25

Pricey, (actually its $11.75 + shipping for 25) but they should work better than what you have.

This is similar to the M10x50 serrated-head bolt that Daystar uses (BTW, you may just want to contact Daystar or Revtek to see if they'll sell you some of theirs.)

Good Luck!
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Good Times
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2. Relocs: I would never run that on my 4runner. That design just looks so flawed that I would worry that the mount will either shear off or won't be able to sustain the load of the 4runner. I highly doubt that NE has done enough of their research on the actual numbers on what kind of force loads and other factors to build something like this. Yes it may look nice and cool but c'mon now, we're talking about a piece if built incorrectly can have dramatic side effects! I'm utterly surprised that they didn't come up with a more solid design.
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The reloc product has been exclusively offered by NE. I have not read any unfavorable reviews or opinions of the relocs.


Is relocation necessary? I have the impression 2.5-3" of lift will have adverse affects on any stock shock.

Is relocation a viable option for xreas trucks?

Will any manufactures offer xreas options/solutions in the future?

Thanks.

(fixed spelling)
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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My thoughts,

Originally Posted by Bluto
Is relocation necessary? I have the impression 2.5-3" of lift will have adverse affects on any stock shock.
The stock XREAS shocks are too short once the vehicle is lifted so either longer shocks (which no one sells yet) or relocation is necessary


Is relocation a viable option for xreas trucks?
With the proper R&D I don't see why it wouldn't work. If it were me I would design the relocs differently but moving the lower mount up or the upper mount down seems to be the only option at this point. I haven't seen the upper mounts so I don't even know if it is possible


Will any manufactures offer xreas options/solutions in the future?
I bet all the major manufacturers will, they just need plenty of time to safely test. Someone else mentioned it took OME a long time to come out with the 3rd gen lift....cuz they wanted to do it right!
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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You can add spacers w/o changing the shocks. Look at Daystar as they sell spacers w/o rear shocks. It is recommended that you get longer shocks but I've seen many users with no ill effect.

The likelihood that an aftermarket vendor will make xreas compatible shocks are slim to null as there isn't enough demand for them to develop a kit. It all comes down to dollar and cents as the xreas is an unique system that only works on the 4runner SE and not on any other vehicle. This just makes the justification very difficult from the vendor standpoint.
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 04:43 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I started a new thread in Offroad Tech.
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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dont know if you guys read this on T4r, but here's a response from billy:

Well, here is what you have been waiting for. I needed some time to think this through as to what was most appropriate to say regarding all of your concerns and questions. I could go to great lengths to talk about how many things described are incorrect and untrue, but obviously I am the last person any of you will believe so that is a waste of all of our time. Here is what I will say, and that is that, no questions will be answered after this post from me personally again.

Nitrous Enterprises came into being initially over a year ago when I began to build up my 4th gen 4Runner. As I did this many people followed the progress and became very interested. The very first NE products were spacers to add an additional lift height to the front of existing kits that were already on the market, this went great, and you all asked for more. Next came the complete kits as a great new material was discovered and the X-REAS scenario was resolved via the relocs that have been tested by a boeing engineer with more education and background experience in this field that any of you combined could ever attain. NE would not put a product out on the market that we did not believe in, and regardless of your thoughts pertaining to our relocs, they are a bulletproof product with a single doubt. FWIW, I will even go to the extent to tell you all publicly that a couple other companies that you are all very familiar with have been testing different reloc designs for months now, but have been continually forced to redesign and change their product the 15% needed to avoid patenting problems and paying us royalties on every set they sell. I will also state that the initial batch of our spacers were not up to my standards in appearance, but physically got the job done just fine and were just as good in appearance as the other two major coil spacer companies on the market, though we all know appearance means nothing in regards to functionality. 2 weeks were devoted over the holidays to change our current spacer design and improve them in every aspect, essentially turning their appearance into a work of art. These spacers will be circulating very soon, so I am sure you will all see pictures before you know it.

That is about as far as I want to go. In conclusion I feel very bad for the treatment all of you have given Tracy here as she and I have no hard feelings and just have gone our seperate ways. We still continue to communicate, and she will always be held in my highest regards. I do apologize to the yotatech and t4r communities as you have all been turned into victims of the moderators who show no class or respect in how they should be professionally conducting themselves. I follow this sentence with the knowing that I will be the next one to be accused of not handling myself professionally, but I have always existed on t4r soley as fourunnabilly and on yt as fourunnabilly. any other accusations or assumptions are false, though i do not expect any of you to believe this as the moderators are the ones who dictate the environment within these forums, not myself.

And finally, myself as well as everyone else involved with NE wants to thank every single one of you, no matter what you think of us. You all inspired this venture, and for the same reason it now comes to an end. Anyone reading this who has recently placed orders rest assured you will be taken care of to the best of our ability with our new molds and casting system. After that it is back to helping friends and building my own 4Runner again. Thanks again, I wish you all nothing but the best, as that is what you deserve.

Sincerely,

AK
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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crap, this stuff is crazy
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by r0cky
there's a point at which all you can do is laugh.
I love that outlook, that's exactly the way this, as well as life needs to be looked at. There are many parts of my life that are that way. I learned the hard way of not laughing at things.
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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me too!

trying to laugh a little more, a little farther back, every day.
That's good to hear Tracey, quite the ordeal you've gone through, sorry it's happened all so fast.
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 09:48 PM
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Hi guys, long time no post.

NE is over at the Nissan Titan forums looking for volunteers for a lift kit setup for the Titan. He claims he has been working with Nissan for months
Im sure they wont be getting any of our business hopefully.

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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by love1u0
Hi guys, long time no post.

NE is over at the Nissan Titan forums looking for volunteers for a lift kit setup for the Titan. He claims he has been working with Nissan for months
Im sure they wont be getting any of our business hopefully.

LINK
Thanks for passing the word out to them. I hope others will catch on do so to the other forums out there that NE is attempting to advertise.

Good job
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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So is Anthony now Tacotom? Most of the posts on his board look self fabricated.

Hey, maybe his fabricating talents have been misunderstood. Con artist?
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 05:58 AM
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i found the pic i modified way back when...
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 06:09 AM
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i posted this to the nissan forum.

i hate to be an aggressor, but i just think its important to spare others the potential to be ripped off.
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 03:33 PM
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You reap what you sow. Now if he made some serious advances and the quality is up to standards than the work would speak for itself. But hey if you have a history of bad dealings then you have to deal with it when it comes up to bite you later.
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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this just proves what you put out your get back
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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what happened to the nissan forum thread???????
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lee
what happened to the nissan forum thread???????
Maybe the mods caught on there as well ???
Old Jan 26, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bulldog-yota
Maybe the mods caught on there as well ???
Just a guess but in the last couple posts AK admitted to doctoring the photos of the Taco. That might have been all the mods needed to boot him?



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