Well I've been thinking (that explains the smoke in the room! ).I'm looking into more economical solution to a daily driver and weekend offroader. Im looking into a 3rd gen pick up with a 3.0 5 speed (I know I know but I love them).Does anyone know where there is a cheap but durable 3in or 4in bodylift to fit 33x12.50x15 on 15x8's or 15x10's?Or where can I find open 4:88 for the front and rear.Don't think I have'nt given up on a serious offroader I'm just putting it on hold till later on down the road (thinking about a 2uzfe t100 4x4 with a sas and front and rear lockers with 35in tsl thornbirds but more on that later).Thanx to all of yotatech I've got nothing but help from you guys is there any way to repay you guys?