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Old May 4, 2021 | 06:58 PM
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Stock Factory Tie Downs or Not?

Hey all,

I recently decided to look into recovery gear/setup and I wanted to get some thoughts regarding recovery points. From what I gather, using the hook in the front is okay(not great), but using the stock transport tie downs isn’t advisable so I decided against it.

Right now in the front I have a factory hook on one side and what appears to be the stock “tie down” bolt-on bracket on the other side.

My issue is the rear end looks different. They are welded and thicker yet still resemble the stock tied downs. At first, I just assumed I would need to either add a bumper/hitch or some stronger recovery brackets, but I started to wonder if these have been upgraded by the PO to a degree that makes them reasonable recovery points. Thoughts?

Pics below. FYI – I know nothing about welding….which is why I am looking for opinions😊

pic#1 - hook

pic#2 & 3 - front factory tie down

Remaining photos are the rear points



Thanks in advance

1994 22re 4runner manual 4wd






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Old May 4, 2021 | 07:30 PM
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Any and of the points you show are adequate to move the machine if the force applied is not violent,

Common sense needs to prevail.

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Old May 4, 2021 | 07:39 PM
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Are you suggesting that even the tie down in front is sufficient for recovery purposes? Most of the research ive done indicates otherwise, but I am definitely a novice, which is why I am soliciting feedback

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Old May 4, 2021 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by s.kenton
Are you suggesting that even the tie down in front is sufficient for recovery purposes? Most of the research ive done indicates otherwise, but I am definitely a novice, which is why I am soliciting feedback
Well, the hook and the tie down are both secured with the same 2 bolts. I imagine Toyota figured that was good enough (not to mention that I've been recovered countless times from the tie down alone, since a PO had removed the hook somewhere along the line).
The pictures of the rear points you showed, I would not be too eager to use those in a recovery. Something bolted or welded flat against the frame would do better. Those tabs look like they could bend over easily in a sideways recovery or possibly break if hit the wrong way.
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Old May 5, 2021 | 12:47 AM
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I would definitely not "snatch" with the tie-down point. Tow in a pinch, maybe.
The rears look just like tabs. Totally not trust-worthy.
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Old May 5, 2021 | 04:05 PM
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Thanks for your insight moto809 and Rad4Runner. I really don't want to use the of tie downs for anything...yeah, I suppose I could tow if needed, but I really want solid recovery points for all purposes. Not only do I want reliable parts, I'd also rather not put myself or anyone else in danger, if possible You know the old addage - Right too for the right job!

As I stated, I was expecting the rear tie downs to be visually identical to the front and when I realized they weren't, I thought I might have some sort of DIY recovery points from the PO. Of course not knowing anything about welding I was unable to determine if those were indeed solid points so I hoped to get some feedback from the forum.
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Old May 5, 2021 | 06:29 PM
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The fronts are definitely factory. As far as the rears, all I can go off is my 93 pickup which does not have those. I'm guessing yours is a 4runner so I can't say for sure, sorry.
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Old May 6, 2021 | 07:12 AM
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Depends on the recovery. The fronts are fairly sturdy, but I wouldn't do more than a gentle pull from those rear ones.

These trucks do not come with true recovery points. The safest method is an offroad bumper with tabs for a shackle that go right to the frame.
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Old May 7, 2021 | 11:48 AM
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The rear points were added as shipping tie down points to keep it from moving during transit
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Old May 7, 2021 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dropzone
The rear points were added as shipping tie down points to keep it from moving during transit

Thanks for the comment. Thats what I figured. Considering they looked different I was naively hoping they might work. Seems they won't. I had read that in some models they were bolt on (similar to the front) and could be removed and replaced with a true recovery point, but alas mine are welded so even if that is true and there are threads under/behind there it wont be so simple. At least for me
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