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Old 03-03-2011, 07:16 AM   #1
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Taurus 4510 Public Defender for concealed

On the back cover of the new Gun Talk magazine was this Taurus 5 shot gun.
It shoots both 45 and 410 shells.

My new Glock 21SF is a little big to carry concealed, but this new smaller Judge style gun looks like it would fit the bill.

http://www.taurususa.com/product-det...ategory=Pistol

Good video at the URL above, and YouTube has videos too.

Anyone here have this gun or an opinion on it for concealed carry?

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Old 03-03-2011, 07:27 AM   #2
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wow thats cool if it fits your liking go for it, i carry an xd s.c. 9mm and like it alot except the lack of options for a grip and with sweaty hands it can get slippery
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I want a Judge so bad is a perfect gun for a door pocket. It would stop a car jacker dead in there tracks.
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Changed my mind on that Judge.
They are selling like hotcakes due to marketing.
I have read some reviews, and while the gun is OK, it is not the best for defense.

What would make sense for me if I want a smaller gun to be able to carry concealable would be a Glock 36.
45 ACP so it uses the same ammo I have now for the 21SF Glock.

Lotta reviews, this one is pretty good.
http://oneoldvet.com/?p=16368

http://www.bestpoliceguns.com/conten...36-review.html

Only a six shot magazine though, and you can carry one in the pipe.
Six shots of 45 ACP is very powerful, and it only takes on hit with a 45 to take someone down.
If I got one, this would be for around town on weekends.
Camping trips the bigger 21SF would be with me in an external holster.
I would be tempted to try an ankle holster for the Glock 36 if I got that gun.
The only mod I would have done is the same sights put on it like I have on my 21SF.

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Corey, good choice on not taking that gun. I am sure firearms have come a long way, but I remember back when I was in high school 15 years ago firing a hand gun that fired the .410 ammo.

Knuckle head of a friend just loaded it, didn't tell me what it was until after I fired it. Missed a can that was no more than 10 feet away because of the kick back on the gun. Of caorse being loaded with a .410 slug didn't help the recoil I am sure, but I couldn't imagine even with standard shot shells that it could be fun to fire or even hit an aggressor with it.

Not to mention I felt the gun up to and past my elbow.
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Yeah, the more I think about it, the Judge is not for me.

I have to tell you though, the first time I squeezed (OK, I pulled, bad habit) the trigger on my Glock at the indoor range a few weeks back I was a tad nervous.
45 ACP is powerful round, but I got use to it right away.
I am glad I went with it over a 9 mm like I was thinking of getting.
I owned a Taurus 9 mm back in the early 90s, and the 45 is a lot more powerful.
So powerful it has more kick than my Colt AR15 shooting 5.56 NATO ammo through it.
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Not too up on the firearms and whatnot and only real experience I have with them is fooling around with them as a kid and the military, but I've always wanted a Glock 22 or 23 40cal.
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Not too up on the firearms and whatnot and only real experience I have with them is fooling around with them as a kid and the military, but I've always wanted a Glock 22 or 23 40cal.
Get a G23, you'll love it
But, DO change out the barrel, I have a Jarvis on mine and it will shoot any ammo, no problem.
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Got a Glock 36 today, look in my AR15 thread in this section for the update on it.
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Good morning all, I'm a big Glock fan. Have even had the unfortune to use one in a defensive nature. I've attended a few shooting shools and was at one time, privately not military, a firearms trainer.

The most important aspect of defensive/tactical shooting is shot placement, this is even more important than caliber. But believe you should carry the largest caliber you can comfortably/accurately shoot. Practice practice practice. If and when a situation ever arrises that you have to use a gun, chances are your stress response is going to make the most simplest task difficult. This is why you should practice your draw from whatever holster you carry. I love the 1911 varients, 7/8 rounds, I've heard all the arguments of large ammo capacity. But seriously "how fast do you need to fire the second shoot to make up for a poorly placed first shot?" Now if your firing competition round capacity may be more of a concern, I concern myself more with defensive/tactical. FWIW: the geometry of the 1911 and Glock are just about the same

Also any recoil operated firearm will have more recoil than a gas operated firearm.
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