Taurus 4510 Public Defender for concealed
03-03-2011, 06:16 AM
#1
Taurus 4510 Public Defender for concealed
On the back cover of the new Gun Talk magazine was this Taurus 5 shot gun.
It shoots both 45 and 410 shells.
My new Glock 21SF is a little big to carry concealed, but this new smaller Judge style gun looks like it would fit the bill.
http://www.taurususa.com/product-det...ategory=Pistol
Good video at the URL above, and YouTube has videos too.
Anyone here have this gun or an opinion on it for concealed carry?
It shoots both 45 and 410 shells.
My new Glock 21SF is a little big to carry concealed, but this new smaller Judge style gun looks like it would fit the bill.
http://www.taurususa.com/product-det...ategory=Pistol
Good video at the URL above, and YouTube has videos too.
Anyone here have this gun or an opinion on it for concealed carry?
03-03-2011, 06:27 AM
#2
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wow thats cool if it fits your liking go for it, i carry an xd s.c. 9mm and like it alot except the lack of options for a grip and with sweaty hands it can get slippery
03-04-2011, 03:22 PM
#4
Changed my mind on that Judge.
They are selling like hotcakes due to marketing.
I have read some reviews, and while the gun is OK, it is not the best for defense.
What would make sense for me if I want a smaller gun to be able to carry concealable would be a Glock 36.
45 ACP so it uses the same ammo I have now for the 21SF Glock.
Lotta reviews, this one is pretty good.
http://oneoldvet.com/?p=16368
http://www.bestpoliceguns.com/conten...36-review.html
Only a six shot magazine though, and you can carry one in the pipe.
Six shots of 45 ACP is very powerful, and it only takes on hit with a 45 to take someone down.
If I got one, this would be for around town on weekends.
Camping trips the bigger 21SF would be with me in an external holster.
I would be tempted to try an ankle holster for the Glock 36 if I got that gun.
The only mod I would have done is the same sights put on it like I have on my 21SF.
They are selling like hotcakes due to marketing.
I have read some reviews, and while the gun is OK, it is not the best for defense.
What would make sense for me if I want a smaller gun to be able to carry concealable would be a Glock 36.
45 ACP so it uses the same ammo I have now for the 21SF Glock.
Lotta reviews, this one is pretty good.
http://oneoldvet.com/?p=16368
http://www.bestpoliceguns.com/conten...36-review.html
Only a six shot magazine though, and you can carry one in the pipe.
Six shots of 45 ACP is very powerful, and it only takes on hit with a 45 to take someone down.
If I got one, this would be for around town on weekends.
Camping trips the bigger 21SF would be with me in an external holster.
I would be tempted to try an ankle holster for the Glock 36 if I got that gun.
The only mod I would have done is the same sights put on it like I have on my 21SF.
03-04-2011, 03:38 PM
#5
Registered User
Corey, good choice on not taking that gun. I am sure firearms have come a long way, but I remember back when I was in high school 15 years ago firing a hand gun that fired the .410 ammo.
Knuckle head of a friend just loaded it, didn't tell me what it was until after I fired it. Missed a can that was no more than 10 feet away because of the kick back on the gun. Of caorse being loaded with a .410 slug didn't help the recoil I am sure, but I couldn't imagine even with standard shot shells that it could be fun to fire or even hit an aggressor with it.
Not to mention I felt the gun up to and past my elbow.
Knuckle head of a friend just loaded it, didn't tell me what it was until after I fired it. Missed a can that was no more than 10 feet away because of the kick back on the gun. Of caorse being loaded with a .410 slug didn't help the recoil I am sure, but I couldn't imagine even with standard shot shells that it could be fun to fire or even hit an aggressor with it.
Not to mention I felt the gun up to and past my elbow.
03-04-2011, 04:41 PM
#6
Yeah, the more I think about it, the Judge is not for me.
I have to tell you though, the first time I squeezed (OK, I pulled, bad habit) the trigger on my Glock at the indoor range a few weeks back I was a tad nervous.
45 ACP is powerful round, but I got use to it right away.
I am glad I went with it over a 9 mm like I was thinking of getting.
I owned a Taurus 9 mm back in the early 90s, and the 45 is a lot more powerful.
So powerful it has more kick than my Colt AR15 shooting 5.56 NATO ammo through it.
I have to tell you though, the first time I squeezed (OK, I pulled, bad habit) the trigger on my Glock at the indoor range a few weeks back I was a tad nervous.
45 ACP is powerful round, but I got use to it right away.
I am glad I went with it over a 9 mm like I was thinking of getting.
I owned a Taurus 9 mm back in the early 90s, and the 45 is a lot more powerful.
So powerful it has more kick than my Colt AR15 shooting 5.56 NATO ammo through it.
03-04-2011, 04:57 PM
#7
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Not too up on the firearms and whatnot and only real experience I have with them is fooling around with them as a kid and the military, but I've always wanted a Glock 22 or 23 40cal.
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03-04-2011, 08:50 PM
#8
But, DO change out the barrel, I have a Jarvis on mine and it will shoot any ammo, no problem.
03-20-2011, 08:36 AM
#10
Good morning all, I'm a big Glock fan. Have even had the unfortune to use one in a defensive nature. I've attended a few shooting shools and was at one time, privately not military, a firearms trainer.
The most important aspect of defensive/tactical shooting is shot placement, this is even more important than caliber. But believe you should carry the largest caliber you can comfortably/accurately shoot. Practice practice practice. If and when a situation ever arrises that you have to use a gun, chances are your stress response is going to make the most simplest task difficult. This is why you should practice your draw from whatever holster you carry. I love the 1911 varients, 7/8 rounds, I've heard all the arguments of large ammo capacity. But seriously "how fast do you need to fire the second shoot to make up for a poorly placed first shot?" Now if your firing competition round capacity may be more of a concern, I concern myself more with defensive/tactical. FWIW: the geometry of the 1911 and Glock are just about the same
Also any recoil operated firearm will have more recoil than a gas operated firearm.
The most important aspect of defensive/tactical shooting is shot placement, this is even more important than caliber. But believe you should carry the largest caliber you can comfortably/accurately shoot. Practice practice practice. If and when a situation ever arrises that you have to use a gun, chances are your stress response is going to make the most simplest task difficult. This is why you should practice your draw from whatever holster you carry. I love the 1911 varients, 7/8 rounds, I've heard all the arguments of large ammo capacity. But seriously "how fast do you need to fire the second shoot to make up for a poorly placed first shot?" Now if your firing competition round capacity may be more of a concern, I concern myself more with defensive/tactical. FWIW: the geometry of the 1911 and Glock are just about the same
Also any recoil operated firearm will have more recoil than a gas operated firearm.
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