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zMax for engine/transmission

Old Jun 18, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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zMax for engine/transmission

What if any results have you noticed?
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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I use it in both, on every car i have/had.

And i see a prety consistan ~1mpg increase in MPG, and the engine seems to run smother. Personally i love the stuff.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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More money in my pocket because I never bought it.
Sorry, not the answer you wanted but I never use additives.

(SeaFoam once in a while)
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Tex- thanks for the input. I have 145K miles on my Runner and I'm sure it needs some of the trash blown out of the engine. The zMax guys were on Trucks or some show that was showing their lab and what zMax ca do for your engine/transmission. Gonna give it a try.

To the other guy increasing his post count.
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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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zmax is a scam. The FTC even took them to court:

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.shtm

Here's a quote from that link:
In February/March 1997, an independent laboratory performed two CRC L38 tests of zMax for Speedway and Oil Chem. In those tests, motor oil treated with zMax produced more than twice as much bearing corrosion as motor oil alone.
I would expect zmax to be sold here:
http://www.kalecoauto.com

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Old Jun 23, 2008 | 11:50 PM
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now it's zMax, before it was DuraLube & before that ??? too many to remember. Does anyone remember Arco Graphite? Most oil additives at best do nothing, at worst cause engine damage. If there were a miracle additive don't you think the BIG OIL Co's would be touting them? The only additive I use is an occasional fuel system cleaner, and I'm suspect even of that. If you try it, good luck & let us know.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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Interesting link there, i will have to rethink my using it.

Though my results were real, but then when i changed to using zmax i also changed the oil to Mobile 1, so i guess mobile 1 could have been the thing that really made the differnce.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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Interesting link there, i will have to rethink my using it.

Though my results were real, but then when i changed to using zmax i also changed the oil to Mobile 1, so i guess mobile 1 could have been the thing that really made the differnce.
they just had a show on truck U (on spike tv) about z-max they claim it soaks into the metal 100 times more than just motor oil.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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they just had a show on truck U (on spike tv) about z-max they claim it soaks into the metal 100 times more than just motor oil.
rrriiiiiiigggghhhhtttttttt. you can buy a lot of crap on tv


zmax is colored mineral oil, nothing more.

it is a scam 100%
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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they just had a show on truck U (on spike tv) about z-max they claim it soaks into the metal 100 times more than just motor oil.
Have you seen all the zMax commercials on Spike? Before that DuraLube & Slick 50

Check this out:
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1999/05/duralub2.shtm

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1996/07/slick.shtm

http://www.xs11.com/tips/maintenance/maint4.shtml

http://www.xs11.com/stories/croil96.htm

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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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If you buy good quality oil y wont ve to spend extra money on additives to make the oil work. Which evidently dont work anyway
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 11:52 AM
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please... for the love of god... don't put that crap in your engine, transmission, or lawnmower.. you're better off if you drink it.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Interesting link from the FTC about Z-Max. Makes you wonder why this stuff is still on the shelves for people to buy, just like Slick 50 with Teflon. Nasa, GM and Briggs & Straton all did independent testing on products that contain Teflon for use in internal combustion engines; that stuff ended up causing more problems then doing anything good. Just use engine oil only.

I still think Motor Up had the best infomercial, anybody remember that and that guy in the junkyard with no teeth and could barely say anything with out getting bleeped out cause he cursed so much? Thats funny.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JCM4x89pu
please... for the love of god... don't put that crap in your engine, transmission, or lawnmower.. you're better off if you drink it.
LMAO- it really cleaned me out. Did a little research and said no thanks. The sticker that says- "As seen on TV" is a dead give-away for crap.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by norcalsvx
they just had a show on truck U (on spike tv) about z-max they claim it soaks into the metal 100 times more than just motor oil.

I didn't know metal was absorbent

if you want to learn about oil, this seems to be a good source
Bob Is The Oil Guy
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 04:04 AM
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I didn't know metal was absorbent

if you want to learn about oil, this seems to be a good source
Bob Is The Oil Guy

X2. you will also learn that M1 is overrated lol.. you will also learn that 98% of the marketing out there is crap. like most motor cleaners, zmax and etc.. buy good oil, change it like you should and you should NEVER have to have a motor clean product EVER.. injectors is a different story. i use the following and thats it!

GM top end cleaner
BG's44K for the fuel tank
seafoam if GM isnt available (GM is much stronger product)

techron if BG's isnt available.

thats pretty much it.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 04:09 AM
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these knuckleheads can still make claims


lubes engine
restores power
...blah blah blah

but what are they comparing it to ? sand ? well, yes in fact
it does lube better than sand....

as long as the claims are not straight out wrong, they can make a fancy
package and claim all this crap (with disclaimers) and get suckers to buy
the stuff.

anything promoted by a racetrack owner ? that doesn't give it any credibility whatsoever. most track owners are the shiftiest bastards you ever met
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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I've tried a *few* of these things before. Used Rislone for a while, that actually seemed to make oil consumption worse, like it evaporated out of the crankcase at operating temps. Never tried Z-max or whatever, and really never fell for the old Slick50 when it came out either.

Just get a good name brand oil from the parts store and keep it changed. If you don't believe that's all it takes, I got a 400K miles original engine that says otherwise.

The only other thing I do is use a can of Berryman's in the gas tank at each oil change. Don't know if anyone else uses it, but it's always been good to me.
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Old Jun 25, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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If you take your trucks to the dealership for oil changes and tranny flushes they use a product called BG which is an additive
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