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Old 01-13-2009, 04:47 PM
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Is it worth it?

I've been looking at a 98' 4runner at a used car dealer because I miss my Tacoma. He's asking $7700 and he said he could cut it down to $7400 for a cash deal, but I'm looking to get it for close to $7000 and he turned down $7100. It's a Limited with every option (besides a locker) and 114k. The frame is good and it runs nicely, but is it overpriced or am I just being unreasonable?

Thanks for any help, depending on what responses I get, I could forward a few hundred to get it or just keep shopping.
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IMHO, that is not a bad deal. I think $7,400 is fair.
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Sounds reasonable. Though I know that prices tend to change a good bit depending on what part of the country you're in. That said, I paid $6800 over the summer for a 1997 Limited 4WD w/eLocker here in Georgia. 140k miles, one owner vehicle, all records, and Toyota serviced.

Check this thread - https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/h...runner-118810/

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Old 01-13-2009, 05:54 PM
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It depends on your area but for FL clean trade in value is $5100, private party value is $6900 and from a dealer the value is $9200...... I think you are on par for $7000 but obviously the cheaper the better.
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Wait for one with a locker, and spend the extra few bucks for it.
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Thanks guys, I was scoping out that thread before and it sounds like it falls in like with about 70% off comparable trucks with some being below or above
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Originally Posted by 86tuning
Wait for one with a locker, and spend the extra few bucks for it.
Couldn't agree more, but it shouldn't cost extra. Most people don't even know the locker is there anyway which means they won't try to "sell" it to you. I bought my 96 without a locker and ended up swapping one in. It makes that much of a difference (if you wheel that is).

I say hold out for a private party sale, with a locker.
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Originally Posted by 86tuning
Wait for one with a locker, and spend the extra few bucks for it.
I dont plan on hard offroading with it. For the time being and possibly forever, it will be all stock with 265/75 r16, so a locker isn't really a make or break for me.
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Where are you located..?

There is a recent classified on YT of a 3rd gen limited 107k V6 5speed and locker for 7G's...Its in boston...




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Make sure to check craigslist, lots of good deals in there on older 4runners.
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Originally Posted by scuba
Where are you located..?

There is a recent classified on YT of a 3rd gen limited 107k V6 5speed and locker for 7G's...Its in boston...




Hey man I cant find the one youre talking about, I'm only seeing high mileage ones around the boston area, could you link me?
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Here a go..

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f108...ed-4x4-163887/


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You could probably find a better deal than that, esp. in this economy. I bet if you shopped around you could probably get one with a rear locker for low $6000's.
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So heres how it went down. Yesterday morning I went about an hour and a half away to NJ to check out a 97' Limited w/ and e-locker, but it was sold half an hour before I got there, so I gave the guy my # to call me if it fell through. On my way back I check out a couple runners but nothing that great, and I finally get back to my town with the safety valve 98' limited I started this thread about and give it another test drive. This morning I wake up, go to the bank, and test out the 98' at highway speeds. I go home to wait from a call from another seller who wound up falling through, at which point I get ready to head out to buy the 98' for a little more than I would like to spend. At this point my phone rings, and I get a call from the dealer the day before about the 97' and he says that it freed up.
Around 4 I hightail it down to NJ, give it a long test drive, and put down a deposit on a 97' Limited with 120k, every option (including locker), and one owner. The back window will not go down, and the brakes are not up to par, but he will take care of them before I pick it up friday and head back to school. Thanks alot for the help guys Ill post up more pics when I have them.
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Sounds sweet! Waiting for more pics
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Sounds good! At least tell us you're getting a used car inspection (from a shop) before shelling out the cash though...I mean brake trouble could be a number of things, including the infamous leaky rear axle seals. $50 could save you a lot of heartache down the road...just a thought.
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Originally Posted by <96 Runner>
Sounds good! At least tell us you're getting a used car inspection (from a shop) before shelling out the cash though...I mean brake trouble could be a number of things, including the infamous leaky rear axle seals. $50 could save you a lot of heartache down the road...just a thought.
Could you link me to a thread about these seals?
I hadn't planned on bringing it anywhere, its an honest shop with a clean carfax but that may be a good idea.

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Just do a quick search and you'll see the threads (probably a lot of them). Anyway, the Cliffs Notes version is that the 3rd gen likes to burn through axle seals and I'm not sure anyone has come to a conclusion as to why. There are theories sure, but no solid, scientific conclusions that I am aware of.

Some possible causes are:

1. Clogged diff breather
2. Use of synthetic oil plus aging seals
3. Unbalanced rear wheels
4. Bearings starting to wear
5. All of the above

Once they leak, gear oil will start to seep through, saturating the brake shoes and inside of the wheels. This leads to decreased rear brake performance (thus increased front brake wear - and warped rotors). And some folks have had shoes bond to the drum via surface tension, causing the wheel to lock up. Nice huh?

The bad news is that the dealer wants about $700 (on average) to do both sides and a rear brake job. The good news is that the seals are cheap ($12 a piece I think) and the job isn't that hard. I've done both of mine. Took me about 3 hours (I bent one of the seals and had to get another).

A used car inspection could catch other things as well. If cared for 3rd gens are pretty much bullet proof...but if you have no proof of service, always assume the worst and get that inspection. Cheers

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4Runner's where I live with under 200k go anywhere between 10-15G's. So that is not a bad deal at ALL....
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Originally Posted by <96 Runner>
Just do a quick search and you'll see the threads (probably a lot of them). Anyway, the Cliffs Notes version is that the 3rd gen likes to burn through axle seals and I'm not sure anyone has come to a conclusion as to why. There are theories sure, but no solid, scientific conclusions that I am aware of.

Some possible causes are:

1. Clogged diff breather
2. Use of synthetic oil plus aging seals
3. Unbalanced rear wheels
4. Bearings starting to wear
5. All of the above

Once they leak, gear oil will start to seep through, saturating the brake shoes and inside of the wheels. This leads to decreased rear brake performance (thus increased front brake wear - and warped rotors). And some folks have had shoes bond to the drum via surface tension, causing the wheel to lock up. Nice huh?

The bad news is that the dealer wants about $700 (on average) to do both sides and a rear brake job. The good news is that the seals are cheap ($12 a piece I think) and the job isn't that hard. I've done both of mine. Took me about 3 hours (I bent one of the seals and had to get another).

A used car inspection could catch other things as well. If cared for 3rd gens are pretty much bullet proof...but if you have no proof of service, always assume the worst and get that inspection. Cheers
Thanks for all the advice man, Im going to try to arrange to get it checked out before I go back to school. I had a 97' Tacoma and then an 04' Mazda3, but this is the one I want to learn how to work on myself (at least when I'm home) so learning all these potential problems really helps.
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