What Can You Pull/Tow with your 3rd Gen. 4Runner
#21
I pull a 16 ft. car hauler loaded with a small tractor and bush hog loaded on it, total weight is about 4,900 lbs it handles it excellently with trialer brakes, however the last time I pulled it I was having problems with my controller box, and it wasn't working but was still able to stop safely. Oh, by the way I am pulling with a 2000 Tacoma Prerunner with the 3.4
#22
I was looking at the Dutchman 29Q-GS. It weighed in at just over 5000#, but the camper sales guy said that with the proper hitch set-up(anti-sway bars, load levelers or weight distribution bars, e-brake controller and Tranny cooler)I could knock off between 500# and 800# of the total dry weight of the camper.
Sounded kinda funny, so I thought I would ask you guys. Who better to ask, than the people who actually use their 4Runners.
Sounded kinda funny, so I thought I would ask you guys. Who better to ask, than the people who actually use their 4Runners.
http://www.northwoodmfg.com/17VS.htm
Well to put it in perspective, check the specs on the above trailer (17VS Hardwall). My buddy across the street just bought an 08 F-250 Superduty because his 05 F-150 struggled with the 17VS (hardwall) trailer. Its dry weight is less and the GVWR is only 180 lbs more than the one you're considering for your 4Runner. I wouldn't even dare to pull his trailer with mine.
#24
I pulled this 1200 miles up to Prince Rupert.

You can't tell, thanks to the sagging springs, but I only had 80lbs of tongue weight
I couldn't go over 45 mph before it would almost send us off the road due to the swerving. I just assumed with the back being so low, that the tongue weight was TOO much.
My suggestion is get a set of those coil spring air bags. I won't haul a trailer of any size without them ever again. (don't have them yet, but plan to)
Erich

You can't tell, thanks to the sagging springs, but I only had 80lbs of tongue weight
I couldn't go over 45 mph before it would almost send us off the road due to the swerving. I just assumed with the back being so low, that the tongue weight was TOO much.
My suggestion is get a set of those coil spring air bags. I won't haul a trailer of any size without them ever again. (don't have them yet, but plan to)
Erich
pulled the same trailer down from washinton to denver about 1200 miles and i pulled it at 70 to 85 except for hills had to drop down to about 45miles an hour. trailer had aprox 5000lbs in it had a tongue wieght of aprox 160 to 180 im guessing on that its all that i could lift cause it didnt have a jack on the dang uhaul.
i would actually say your swerving problems where more related to either not enough tongue wieght or improper loading.
#25
Bought an 07 TrailCruiser 26-SB (26 ft camper with a 5ft rear slide). Dry weight is 4011lbs. No real problems, except I was over heating in the mountains. Cme to find out all 4 wheels on the camperlooked like this, / \ .
There is either a design flaw with the torsion axles they use or the mounts on the camper frame are out of lne with one another.
When we first looked at it, I told the dealer that the wheels looked bent on the passenger side. He said they had to order new axles because they were damaged in delivery. Waited 2 weeks for them to come in. They installed them and off we went for our 1st camping trip with a camper. Camp ground was only 10 miles from my house and 35 from camper dealer. Anyway, got to the camp ground and noticed that the wheels looked a little funny. Thought just the way its sitting. Camping trip over, and took back to dealer for some other small issues. Picked it up a couple weeks later for another trip to the same place. Noticed the same wheel problem, but now both sides looked a little cocked. Still no concern. Left 3 days later for a 170 mile, 4 day camping trip, one way, into the mountains of WV. Overheated twice on the way up but arrived at camp site and noticed that now they really sat out quite a bit. Left camp ground at end of trip and headed for home with a planned stop at the camper dealer. Overheated 3 times on the way home. We get to the camper dealer and he notices the camber of the wheels as soon as I told him I have a problem. ALso, found out that the rear drivers side tire on the camper was starting to peel away. It had chucks of rubber falling off the inside.
He said there is a problem and they would have to contact the manufacturer. Still waiting on a response, but only been 4 days.
While we were there I noticed that all the 08's had gone back to the leaf spring set up. When I asked, he said that he noticed that too and would inquire as to why.
I think the manufacturer found a design flaw in using the torsion axle set up and has since returned to the leaf spring set up. I did tell them that since it was only 1 1/2 months old, I would not accept it if there had to be any cutting and welding done.
Now, I'm just sitting and waiting for a reply and
There is either a design flaw with the torsion axles they use or the mounts on the camper frame are out of lne with one another.
When we first looked at it, I told the dealer that the wheels looked bent on the passenger side. He said they had to order new axles because they were damaged in delivery. Waited 2 weeks for them to come in. They installed them and off we went for our 1st camping trip with a camper. Camp ground was only 10 miles from my house and 35 from camper dealer. Anyway, got to the camp ground and noticed that the wheels looked a little funny. Thought just the way its sitting. Camping trip over, and took back to dealer for some other small issues. Picked it up a couple weeks later for another trip to the same place. Noticed the same wheel problem, but now both sides looked a little cocked. Still no concern. Left 3 days later for a 170 mile, 4 day camping trip, one way, into the mountains of WV. Overheated twice on the way up but arrived at camp site and noticed that now they really sat out quite a bit. Left camp ground at end of trip and headed for home with a planned stop at the camper dealer. Overheated 3 times on the way home. We get to the camper dealer and he notices the camber of the wheels as soon as I told him I have a problem. ALso, found out that the rear drivers side tire on the camper was starting to peel away. It had chucks of rubber falling off the inside.
He said there is a problem and they would have to contact the manufacturer. Still waiting on a response, but only been 4 days.
While we were there I noticed that all the 08's had gone back to the leaf spring set up. When I asked, he said that he noticed that too and would inquire as to why.
I think the manufacturer found a design flaw in using the torsion axle set up and has since returned to the leaf spring set up. I did tell them that since it was only 1 1/2 months old, I would not accept it if there had to be any cutting and welding done.
Now, I'm just sitting and waiting for a reply and
#26
I tow an 18 foot Shadow Cruiser - sleeps 4 (shower, double kitchen sinks, etc) and weighs in around 3,800 lbs fully loaded with topped-off water tanks, extra propane and 130 pounds of Trojan batteries. Some of the ultralights have fold-out extensions like a tent trailer which can expand sleeping to 6. The 4Runner does okay but does struggle on the hills. However, water and tranny temps stay within acceptable limits and I am very happy with it. I believe that many of the RV websites strongly suggest staying under 80% of the max tow rating.
I have recently considered trading the 4Runner in for a 2007 1 ton diesel (after all, if I'm getting 15 mpg, I might as well be able to tow 15,000 lbs LOL....) but the extra width and length is going to limit where I go so I'll stick with the 4Runner for now.
I also echo the previous comments regarding the poor towing mirrors. I ended up having a hardwired back-up camera installed that I can watch behind me while driving. It really helps when making lane changes or passing other vehicles.
Don't be afraid to tow with your 4Runner - they are amazing vehicles, just make sure to spend the $$ to do it right (brakes, proper brake contoller, properly set up weight distribution bars and the various coolers and gauges).
James
I have recently considered trading the 4Runner in for a 2007 1 ton diesel (after all, if I'm getting 15 mpg, I might as well be able to tow 15,000 lbs LOL....) but the extra width and length is going to limit where I go so I'll stick with the 4Runner for now.
I also echo the previous comments regarding the poor towing mirrors. I ended up having a hardwired back-up camera installed that I can watch behind me while driving. It really helps when making lane changes or passing other vehicles.
Don't be afraid to tow with your 4Runner - they are amazing vehicles, just make sure to spend the $$ to do it right (brakes, proper brake contoller, properly set up weight distribution bars and the various coolers and gauges).
James
Sounds like my trailer. Shadow Cruiser 189FBR. My 04 d-cab Taco tows it with no problems, only mods are a trans cooler, suspension mods and Tundra front brakes. The biggest advice I'll offer is to take your time when towing, my rig is totally stable up to 60-65. Any faster and it gets a little scary. And the gas mileage goes from bad to really bad if I try to cruise at 70.
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