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Originally Posted by Flygtenstein
MT/R's are a crappy mud tire. Last I checked, you had mud in the south.
I have seen 3 pairs of SSR's chunk to the point of no return in less than 1000 miles.
That leaves Cooper, don't know anything about them.
With respect to gears, you have an auto tranny, right? Don't think the extra gearing would hurt in your situation. I have the same driveline and run 37's. I ran 33's with 5.29's and a lighter rig. Everyone said it was too much. Apparently the truck didn't care. Tranny is a big deal with a powerful engine that lets you fudge the clutch.
The towing part is a bugger. You have a trail truck that is not quite. It is only offroad except when it is towing a pretty siginicant trailer. I would debate a real bomber tire like a TSL and ditching the trailer.
I have seen 3 pairs of SSR's chunk to the point of no return in less than 1000 miles.
That leaves Cooper, don't know anything about them.
With respect to gears, you have an auto tranny, right? Don't think the extra gearing would hurt in your situation. I have the same driveline and run 37's. I ran 33's with 5.29's and a lighter rig. Everyone said it was too much. Apparently the truck didn't care. Tranny is a big deal with a powerful engine that lets you fudge the clutch.
The towing part is a bugger. You have a trail truck that is not quite. It is only offroad except when it is towing a pretty siginicant trailer. I would debate a real bomber tire like a TSL and ditching the trailer.
One choice is the Mickey Thompson MTZ, not MTR-I've had a set of those on my work truck and yes they suck in the mud.
I have a 5spd with a Marlin Clutch. The only problem I have pulling the camper right now is when starting from a stop on a steep hill-I have used low to start just once and that was a really really steep hill. I think starting from a stop is going to be the only problem with going to 35's I hope. Once I'm rolling I don't see a problem with the 4.88's and 35's towing.
The camper is a really big popup-3700 pounds, my 4Runner weighs 5080 pounds with me in it and all the normal offroading gear, so throw in another 250 pounds on top of all that for my wife, son and clothes, food and that would be my towing gross weight.
I did consider ditching the popup and getting a motorhome and towing the 4Runner, but the only motorhomes that can tow anything bigger than compact car are way too expensive and chugging dow the highway at 4mpg doesn't turn me on either. For the next several years at least, I'm stuck towing the camper with me. Maybe one day I'll justify the expense of a SAS and go 5.29's.
Camper pic in tow:

Camper setup-a/c is a must in the south!
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#43
I would get the BFG's and I'll help you out with the shaved arms if you need them.
If you get the 3.5" BS wheels you won't.
I actually had MORE power when I used the correct tire size with my gears. I can go faster and have more power with 35's than I did with 33's.
So yes 4.88's and 35's is going to be just fine.
If you get the 3.5" BS wheels you won't.
I actually had MORE power when I used the correct tire size with my gears. I can go faster and have more power with 35's than I did with 33's.
So yes 4.88's and 35's is going to be just fine.
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Originally Posted by sschaefer3
I would get the BFG's and I'll help you out with the shaved arms if you need them.
If you get the 3.5" BS wheels you won't.
I actually had MORE power when I used the correct tire size with my gears. I can go faster and have more power with 35's than I did with 33's.
So yes 4.88's and 35's is going to be just fine.
If you get the 3.5" BS wheels you won't.
I actually had MORE power when I used the correct tire size with my gears. I can go faster and have more power with 35's than I did with 33's.
So yes 4.88's and 35's is going to be just fine.
315's or 35x12.50x15's? The 15's concern me for towing b/c of the load and only being able to inflate to 35 psi. Seems like with all that sidewall and only 35 psi the tires might have some sideways flex under towing? I will be running the Landcruiser coils with airbags.
I'll be getting the correctly backspaced wheels 3.3125 for 15x8 or 3.625 for 16x8, so no need for the arms, I was just concerned about the wheelwells-near the firewall where some people have chopped it and rewelded a new panel in that sits deeper.
35x12.50x15 BFG's would be the way to go if 35 psi is good for towing-under $1300 shipped to my door mounted and balanced from NTW-4 tires, 4 wheels, center caps and lug nuts, 1 spare wheel-I'd buy a used 35" tire for a spare. That's a nice price.
They hold 2535 pounds at 35 psi-that should be more than enough capacity, even when towing. My 285's are rated for 3305 pounds at 65 psi and I never run more than 40 to 45 psi in them. When towing my hitch weight is around 450 pounds and my 4Runner loaded down and 2 people and 1 baby would be around 5500 pounds. So the rear axle couldn't be carrying more than 3000 pound total, right? If so, that's only 1500 pounds per tire.
Who tows with 35x12.50x15's? Any sideways sway in the sidewalls when under a load?
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I do not get any sway towing the ATV's to Yuma. I don't think you will have to cut the fire wall. Campus Alignment with STOCK upper arms can adjust the cams enough forward and still get it in spec that you don't need to cut.
Very few alignment places seem to have this insight. Those cams also move the arms forward and back, but no one seems to understand that.
Very few alignment places seem to have this insight. Those cams also move the arms forward and back, but no one seems to understand that.
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Originally Posted by sschaefer3
I do not get any sway towing the ATV's to Yuma. I don't think you will have to cut the fire wall. Campus Alignment with STOCK upper arms can adjust the cams enough forward and still get it in spec that you don't need to cut.
Very few alignment places seem to have this insight. Those cams also move the arms forward and back, but no one seems to understand that.
Very few alignment places seem to have this insight. Those cams also move the arms forward and back, but no one seems to understand that.
So what issues might I have if I'm lazy and stick with the Inland Arms with the cams having the arms all the way out like on your website?
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Originally Posted by dragr1
So what issues might I have if I'm lazy and stick with the Inland Arms with the cams having the arms all the way out like on your website?
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#51
Originally Posted by Albuquerque Jim
Just get some 35's and figure it out. You know you want them...


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why not a 315 BFG, its the same height as a 35 but a tiny ,.2, narrower. And it can go to 50psi... But from my experiance running 35's on 8" wide rims, youll never get it above 30 or the centers will wear out. The most I have ever had was about 28 with a 5000+ lb trailer and probally 700lbs of tounge weight. Usually camping I have 700-1000lbs in the bed and 26-28 psi is hwy pressure....Larger tires dont take as much pressure to hold weight as smaller ones since the side wall has much more vertical streangth. When I air down to 10 psi it still looks like I am at 18-20. Around town I am 22ish front 18ish rear... but my P/U is about 1K less than a runner. The 315's are rated at 660lbs more per tire, but I think you will need a 10" wide rim to get the full use at full pressure.. then you have rubbing issues.
Here is a photo of my rig on my last camping trip with all the gear in it. Due to timing I was able to go to camp drop crap off and back to town for water and food so its probally 150ish pounds lighter than normal, but I bet there is 600lbs+ in the bed and hitch haul (enough it took squated about 3-4"), and the tires are at 14si and barely any sidewall flex.
Here is a photo of my rig on my last camping trip with all the gear in it. Due to timing I was able to go to camp drop crap off and back to town for water and food so its probally 150ish pounds lighter than normal, but I bet there is 600lbs+ in the bed and hitch haul (enough it took squated about 3-4"), and the tires are at 14si and barely any sidewall flex.
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why not a 315 BFG, its the same height as a 35 but a tiny ,.2, narrower. And it can go to 50psi... But from my experiance running 35's on 8" wide rims, youll never get it above 30 or the centers will wear out. The most I have ever had was about 28 with a 5000+ lb trailer and probally 700lbs of tounge weight. Usually camping I have 700-1000lbs in the bed and 26-28 psi is hwy pressure....Larger tires dont take as much pressure to hold weight as smaller ones since the side wall has much more vertical streangth. When I air down to 10 psi it still looks like I am at 18-20. Around town I am 22ish front 18ish rear... but my P/U is about 1K less than a runner. The 315's are rated at 660lbs more per tire, but I think you will need a 10" wide rim to get the full use at full pressure.. then you have rubbing issues.
Here is a photo of my rig on my last camping trip with all the gear in it. Due to timing I was able to go to camp drop crap off and back to town for water and food so its probally 150ish pounds lighter than normal, but I bet there is 600lbs+ in the bed and hitch haul (enough it took squated about 3-4"), and the tires are at 14si and barely any sidewall flex.

Here is a photo of my rig on my last camping trip with all the gear in it. Due to timing I was able to go to camp drop crap off and back to town for water and food so its probally 150ish pounds lighter than normal, but I bet there is 600lbs+ in the bed and hitch haul (enough it took squated about 3-4"), and the tires are at 14si and barely any sidewall flex.

Well, basically the 15's are just a lot less expensive and the 15x8" Mickey T wheel looks better than the 16x8" Mickey T b/c the 16" was designed for a Chevy and the 15 has the backspacing I really need at 3.3125 instead of 3.625 for the 16.
I shouldn't be anywhere near the load capacity even for the 15" tire even when towing-I should be under the max load of each tire by at least 900 pounds.
But, your thoughts were mine too-the 50 psi would be better but is it really necessary to get the job done?
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damn..looks good jim. where if any do you you rub on that setup? i know the black steelies stick out a bit more than my LC wheels so im worried about them not fitting w/in the wheel wells esp in the rear when stuffed. any issues under full lock & full stuff? any chance theres a pic of the other side of that shot? 

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10k Dodge Diesel
3k for a 35' Goose
15k for a nice camper
Sell the nice pop up you have and never have to sweat tire size again.
Not being a wise guy, but I would hate to tow that load with a stock truck, let alone one geared, lifted and wheeled. That is some good weight.
As much as it pains me to say this, get the BFG's.
You are well educated on the rims, good call.
3k for a 35' Goose
15k for a nice camper
Sell the nice pop up you have and never have to sweat tire size again.
Not being a wise guy, but I would hate to tow that load with a stock truck, let alone one geared, lifted and wheeled. That is some good weight.
As much as it pains me to say this, get the BFG's.
You are well educated on the rims, good call.
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Sorry, but that's like saying wheelin' stresses your tires more...I don't think most of us have the very best interest for our vehicles when we lift them, lock 'em, bolt on big tires and go drivin' around through the wilderness.
Of course 35's will stress the CV's more. So does a 200 to 1 crawl ratio...and lockers. But it sure is fun!
Of course 35's will stress the CV's more. So does a 200 to 1 crawl ratio...and lockers. But it sure is fun!
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Sorry, but that's like saying wheelin' stresses your tires more...I don't think most of us have the very best interest for our vehicles when we lift them, lock 'em, bolt on big tires and go drivin' around through the wilderness.
Of course 35's will stress the CV's more. So does a 200 to 1 crawl ratio...and lockers. But it sure is fun!
Of course 35's will stress the CV's more. So does a 200 to 1 crawl ratio...and lockers. But it sure is fun!













